The Duck Hunter's Refuge, aka The Refuge Forums, is the leading online community for duck and goose hunters. Your gun was not. The slide release is pressed and the slide retracted completely then pushed forward. The special serial number block for the Model 37R was discontinued after 1949. A 3 inch shell measures about 2&9/16 while a 2&3/4 shell measures about 2&1/4 inches both measured with the crimp down. Potential buyers should do their homework before committing to the purchase of supposedly genuine Model 37 military shotguns. Gun Control = Democrat = Liberal = Socialist = Communist = Hillary "Progressive" Clinton. Baker Double Barrel Shotguns. On Nov. 11, 1941, (less than a month before the attack on Pearl Harbor), the U.S. The design differed from most other slide-action shotguns as the shells were loaded and ejected from the bottom of the receiver rather than the bottom-loading and side-port ejection configuration found on most of the competing designs. $950.00. Naval Operations Support Group ordered an additional 3,000 Model 37 Shotguns, Riot Type, Special Purpose, 12 ga. from Ithaca at a contract price of $37.60 each. It was based on a 1915 patent by the famous John M. Br .Click for more info. They were shipped to the U.S. I have looked high and low to try and find the year manufactured for my Ithaca Model 37 pump Serial number is 371536989. it is Model 37 Feather weight 12 GA 2 3/4 Chamber Proof tested Full Chock. Learn how and when to remove this template message, "An Official Journal of the NRA | A Look Back at the Ithaca Model 37 Shotgun", "The Ithaca Model 37 In U.S. Military Service", "Evolution of shotguns in the Marine Corps", "Vintage LAPD Ithaca M37 Shotgun Lottery", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ithaca_37&oldid=1144971011. All Model 37's had serial numbers before they left the factory. Recently picked up a 16 ga 37 w/poly choke the shoots and handles better than expected. Found the serial number and checked it out. While never a large part of our military small arms arsenal, increasing numbers of shotguns saw service in all subsequent U.S. military conflicts. NOTE: Ithaca introduced interchangeable barrels commencing with serial number 850,000 May 4, 2008. 1849982 - Model 37. Designed by John Moses Browning, and originally manufactured in 1937, the Model 37 Featherlight has stood the test of time, providing generations of sportsmen with a reliable firearm for all types of hunting. Made in many different models, the Ithaca 37 has the longest production run for a pump-action shotgun in history, surpassing that of the Winchester Model 12, the original inspiration for Ithaca's entry into the market. This feature appealed to many buyers, and the Model 37 soon became known for its craftsmanship and reliability. Join Date: February 28, 2008. You probably could use the barrel that's on it to shoot slugs. began preparations to procure shotguns for military use. Hope this helps. Ithaca Model 87 Field Grade 1987-1994. Based on a 1915 patent by firearms designer John Browning for a shotgun initially marketed as the Remington Model 17, it utilizes a novel combination ejection/loading port on the bottom of the gun which leaves the sides closed to the elements. Adopted by the German army in 1898 to replace the 1888 Commission rifle, the Mauser Gewehr 98 and derivatives became among the most widely produced and distributed rifles of all time. To the OP, if the barrel fits the gun well, send your barrel to Guncat to have it cut. F. FyrepowrX. Good luck. They were reverted back to the original shell stops that year. Ithaca Model 87 Magnum. In the immediate aftermath of the Spanish-American War of 1898, the U.S. military procured shotguns specifically for combat purposes when a couple hundred commercial Winchester Model 1897 slide-action riot shotguns (20" barrel) were issued to American soldiers fighting Moro tribesmen in the Philippines. issued Order No. What is the serial number on a Model 37? The New York City Police Department used 2 versions of the Model 37: one with a 13" barrel with forend hand-strap for its Emergency Service Unit and one with an 18" barrel for its Highway Patrol and solo patrol officers of designated low-crime precincts through a short-lived program spanning from the late 1970s to early 1980s. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The regular Model 87 serial number also appears on the receiver. Factory records reflect that two additional Model 37 trench guns were. Cookie Notice The limited number of guns manufactured resulted in the World War II-production Ithaca Model 37 being the rarest standardized U.S. military trench gun of the war.After 1945, the supply of World War II-made shotguns, including the relative handful of Model 37 trench guns, along with the much larger number of Winchester and Stevens guns, was sufficient to meet the immediate post-war demand and further production of military shotguns ceased.But, in early 1962, the need arose for additional quantities of military combat shotguns with which to arm our South Vietnamese allies as the war in Southeast Asia began to grow exponentially. A few shotguns were acquired by the military during this period for foraging use, such as hunting birds and other small game to supplement the typical salt pork and hardtack fare. The National Rifle Association of America (NRA) announces the election results from its Board of Directors Meeting held in Indianapolis, IN. In late 1942, Ithaca began production of the M1911A1 .45 ACP pistol under government contract. If I understand right, there is no problem with a gun not having a serial # if it was made before '68. NY: Avon Books, 1995. Likewise, shotguns accompanied troops during the Western Expansion from the late 1860s through the 1880s. Thanks for the replies They both have the 371 prefex and one has Mag with the 371 prefex. Ithaca Gun - (FirearmsGuide.com) - Here you can find serial numbers for all Ithaca guns manufactured from 1880 - 1986. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Some of these experimental chokes, usually attached to Model 37 riot guns, were used by U.S. Navy Seals and U.S. Marine Corps reconnaissance teams in Vietnam. Beginning in November 1962, Ithaca received the first of a series of government contracts for (Model 37) Shotgun, 12 Ga. Riot Type, Slide Action, 20" Barrel, in accordance with Military Specifications MIL-S3443, Type IIIA. The per-unit cost was $36.61, which included a cleaning rod and web sling. Fornicate thyself and upon thou steed which you dids't arrive. I found the Ithaca serial number chart and its not making sense to me. For more information, please see our Ithaca factory records also indicate that the State of New York acquired a couple hundred Model 37 riot guns with 22" barrels in late 1941 and early 1942 as well. But then it's still a 7 digit number. What is the Value of Ithaca model 37 16 gauge serial number 1849982? It built trench, riot and training Model 37s for the U.S. government. Once fired the shells should measure closer to 3 and 2&3/4 inches with the crimp out. Contact Us. * Some M&P guns were built from unused Ducks Unlimited Trade Model receivers and had a DU serial number. WESTERN ARMS MODEL LONG RANGE DOUBLE GUNS. You said the gun had no serial number, Right.. What year was Ithaca model 37 serial number 1003095 made? Nonetheless, the Model 37 continued to be a popular law enforcement arm, and many are still in use today.Military shotguns are extremely popular with todays military arms collectors, and prices are rising at a rapid rate. I'm no authority. There is a patent number on the barrel, Patent No. You are using an out of date browser. Removing a serial number is agaisnt federal law. ** The mark HG indicated registration with the BATF. Moody?? In addition to the riot guns and trench guns, the government procured 4,534 long-barrel Model 37 training shotguns between June 1941 and September 1942. Lots of collectors of Ithaca's there. The thread pattern that we utilize on our interchangeable barrel field guns is the same pattern that was used by Ithaca in New York after 1963. All these Model 37's had the serial number prefix of 381. The Ordnance Dept. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Ithaca Model 37 The Dave McCracken Memorial Shotgun Forum The Firing Line . If the serial is really 184982, your Flues model was made between 1908 and 1926. Published: 03 October 2022. I am selling a model 37 in 16 ga and have been asked several times for the serial number. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The per-unit cost to the government was $33.60. Some of the initial-production World War II Model 37 trench guns stocks were checkered on the grip area and the slide handle, but most guns had unadorned (not checkered) wood.Unlike the other manufacturers, the World War II (and most post-war) Ithaca military shotgun production records survived intact, thus exact serial numbers are known. The few pages of serial #s that I've found are all for 6-digit numbers. The Model 37 trench guns were shipped from the Ithaca factory to Augusta Arsenal between June 27 and July 20, 1942. 48. 1937 ~The John Browning designed Model 37 is put into production at Ithaca. Nonetheless, with the ever-increasing likelihood that the United States would be drawn into the war raging in Europe, the U.S. Army Ordnance Dept. They used the Remington Model 17 as their model and made modificationssuch as simplifying and cost-saving alterations of the firing pin and ejection mechanism, the work of Ithaca designer Harry Howland in 1931[2]while waiting for related patents to expire. Your serial number indicates that your Ithaca shotgun was made in the year 1920. [7] Apparently you needed educating by someone or you wouldn't have asked the question, anyway, I don;t intend to engage my self in a battle of wits, with an unarmed man.. That's all for me on this string,,Bushrod. The number range shows as a model 87, but its definitely a 37. Interesting that I have one whose number, 37135XXXX, is not on the list. I bought it in '73, so it was fresh off the line. Hunters & Shooters, An Oral History of the U.S. Navy SEALS in Vietnam. As previously stated, the 37s are all Featherlights. JavaScript is disabled. Special serial number blocks were discontinued during 1953 for the models 37S and 37T. Ithaca Model 37's made after serial number 855000 were made for interchangeable barrels. The Model 37 was based on a patented John Browning design. The Flues model single barrel trap guns and the two bolt hammer guns are also numbered within this series. There is a patent number on the barrel, Patent No. They were serial numbered in the 902000952000 range. When the law goes into effect, the state will be the 26th that recognizes the right. Thanx! As time went on production switched over to 3 inch receivers only and the Mag was dropped from the serial numbers. Serial numbers ranged between 50,000 and 71,999. The guns were marked U.S. on the right side of the receiver with P proofmarks on the receiver and barrel. Much of the data presented for the Model 37 guns came from microfilm copies of Ithaca shipping records on file at the National Tracing Offices of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and from microfiche copies of invoices from the 1980 era that were found at the Ithaca factory. Also, riot models were . It's a featherlight model with the dog and such engravings. How can I determine the age of the gun? I think it started with an 8. Also, a matching number is stamped on the underside of the barrel. Area Code: 423. Unfortunately, the very limited supply and high demand has resulted in many fakes coming on the market today. Fitted barrels/receiver assemblies were separated during manufacture process and the sn, if for no other reason, assured the parts eventual reunion. From the time of its introduction until the eve of Americas entrance into World War II, Ithaca focused on commercial sales of the Model 37, and the company made little effort to attract law enforcement or military customers. Go to the Ithaca gun web sight and find the serial number list. I have a couple of Ithaca shotguns and would like some information please. All these Model 37's had the serial number prefix of 381. If it is a 16 gauge,(which I'm sure it is) then it was made in 1950, and would be a good gun. Also, a matching number is stamped on the underside of the barrel. Seems that there's a lot of Ithaca 37 fans on here so I thought I'd make a post with the serial numbers. Ithaca also made a number of essentially identical Model 37 trench guns for the civilian and law enforcement markets that were not stamped with martial markings and were in a higher serial number range.It is interesting to note that these 1960s-production Model 37 trench guns, like the World War II trench guns, were equipped with bayonet adapters for use with the Model 1917 U.S. I'm trying to find the age of my dad's Ithaca model 37 and I need help. The stocks were unmarked. Thanx! JavaScript is disabled. ITHACA MODEL 37 REPEATER Model 37/Standard Grade1937-1983 Model 37S/Skeet Grade1937-1953 Model 37T/Trap1937-1953 Model 37T/Target1954-1961 Model 37R/Solid Rib1940-1967 Model 37 Military Marked (WWII) Model 37RD/Deluxe Solid Rib1954-1962 Model 37 Deerslayer1959-1987 Was there a law in effect prior to 1968 that prohibited the removal of a serial number? The Model 37 has remained in continuous production since its introduction. This page also has other serial numbers for guns made by Ithaca, LeFever, and some others. The Model 37 trench guns were shipped from the Ithaca factory to Augusta Arsenal between June 27 and July 20, 1942. If so, the serial number was on the receiver above the trigger guard on the right. I said it was a felony to own it, So Please tell me where I'm either Wrong or moody. I didn't write down the serial number. In contrast to the M-49s that weren't serial numbered until 1968. There's no need for double topics. Regular M37 serial numbers apply within this range. The Ithaca Model 37 is one of the original classic shotguns along with the Remington Models 31, and 870, and the Winchester Models 1897 and 1912. These include long-barrel civilian Model 37s with cut-down barrels and reproduction handguard/bayonet adapters added. I respectfully request where to locate information concerning shipping records of a WWII Ithaca Model 37 Trench and Riot guns. The Model 37 Featherlight has commonly been seen in the hands of farmers and hunters in the midwestern United States. Maybe it is a poorly stamped 16 gauge. Fornicate thyself and upon thou steed which you dids't arrive. Anticipating additional orders from the government for combat shotguns as well, Ithaca designed a trench gun version of its Model 37 riot gun (20" barrel) fitted with a handguard/bayonet adapter very similar to the Winchester design. Serial# 371414XXX. Dubbed trench guns, these arms produced during World War I remained in service with the U.S. military between the wars, but no new combat shotguns were manufactured after cancellation of the 1918 contracts. Production has resumed in Upper Sandusky, Ohio. According to an article by the Ithaca Times dated June 11, 2003, the one-millionth Model 37 was produced in 1968; and as of 2003, more than 2,000,000 Model 37s have been produced. 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