Once art school finished though, once the student loan gravy train ground to a halt, I found maintaining any kind of fixed abode problematic. The Guardian. Lias Saoudi: Most of the new record, some of the old record, and then whatever else we might come up with in between times. So what happened? You can run too far without your own self-mythologizing. So what did he make of Elvis Costellos announcement that he would no longer perform his song Olivers Army because it features the n-word? I was a very violent person. Lias Saoudi: Oh, sort of like auto-fiction vibes? Rummage in the pockets of your coat. First, there's the time difference he lives in the U.K. and, second, there are pranksters like his brother and band mate Nathan, who just might answer the phone pretending to be Lias. Its a leap of faith, if you nail that then it usually goes down alright but if you pussy out of it then youre in trouble., Bob Dylan Key West (Philosopher Pirate), I went to see him the other night, I hadnt seen him in 20 years and it was absolutely mind-blowing. Lias Saoudi Folk Ensemble play live at The Social W1 as part of the first evenings celebrating the launch of the epic FWF biography Ten Thousand Apologies co. We did a few demos earlier on in the year. The kids in Cookstown, Northern Ireland, had few pastimes outside of football, setting things on fire and throwing stones at the Portuguese* on their way home from work in the evening. I dont really belong anywhere, you know? There are a few things cooking. I think its one of those things that to sort of successfully pull it off, you have to be able to pair off with somebody. Once all that was gone, I had no hankering.". Theres a scene at the end when Jeremy Irons cuts his own throat in prison, and its just a continuation of that sentiment, he argues. On the night of the terrorist attack at the Bataclan in Paris in November 2015, when Fat White Family were performing at another venue in the city, we are told that Saul had commanded the rest of the band to stay in the dressing room, informing them, Its the safest place we can be. And Ill be tired of being around drugs and boozing and all that stuff, so I was thinking, if I slowly usher myself into that other realm, maybe Ill make it out alive. He had an incredible array of records in his living room that me and his daughter would help ourselves to. 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Last year, Sleaford Mods and Fat White Family voiced their issues about IDLES, with Sleaford Mods' Jason Williamson writing that they were "appropriating, to a certain degree, a working class voice", while Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi described the band as "self neutering middle class boobs". By Gregg L. Friedman MD, Nirvana were really great - never liked any other 'grunge' bands, only later liked some Mudhoney - though i did own a flannel shirt, but, SAM CUTLER: LIFE WITH THE STONES, THE DEAD & OTHER WONDERFUL REPROBATES, ALL THE RAJ: HOW NORWEGIAN WOOD UNLEASHED THE INDIAN INVASION, THE KNACK AND HOW TO GET IT: AN INTERVIEW WITH PRESCOTT NILES, PLEASE READ ME: THE BEST OF PKM FOR 2021, PART II, UTOPIA PARKWAY: THE ENDURING MYSTERY OF JOSEPH CORNELL. Its not a power that can actually be taken away from somebody. The South London band has been hailed as Sweary, scary and willfully offensive (The Irish Times); a lens through which contemporary life is exposed, investigated and celebrated (Domino Records) andthe sonic equivalent of society coming unhinged (Rolling Stone). To the point where I was like, I dont want to do any of that online shit. Just frustrated, angryAnd now its like, well, if its going to be like his for a year, then, just to make ends meet, Ill have to work out a way of doing it online, doing a show, something theatrical, doing in it weird locations. Around this time i met and fell completely in love with a girl from school whom Id been passionately staring at in the corridors, classes and halls for the last three years. Its arguably the greatest suicide note in musical history listening to the lyrics, the conclusion you draw is inevitable, meaning he must have had that in mind, that he was on the way out. Its incredibly painful, a lot of it, but theres an ecstasy to it, in that its pure catharsis. Sarah Davachi at Lglise Saint-Eustache, Paris. Lias Saoudi is the frontman of rock bands Fat White Family and the Moonlandingz. Id been bullied and battered a bunch of times growing up but no beating contained such archaic mystification as that one. Hes at liberty to capitulate if he likes, says Saoudi, who uses the word in Fat White Family song Feet. ^ Campbell, Brian (19 February 2016). We were both virgins, both really timid; it took us quite a long time before we explored each others bodies in full. Nevertheless, Lias styled it out. Youre just, like, excavating your own life, he says. Momentum built, but very gradually at first. I prefer to draw no line., Saoudi has found his stride now, but he pauses briefly to finish his Guinness. Humanitarian man of letters? Abject hopeless nihilism. Macbeth followed it in November. Thats almost like having a chip implanted in you. I, is released via The Leaf Label on November 4. That hasnt been shut off yet. I certainly wouldnt vote for him., Saoudi performing with Fat White Family in 2019. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? [5], In early 2014, the band launched a PledgeMusic campaign to fund their show at the South by Southwest festival, with a subsequent US tour. It made me think of London, which was not a place Id ever been but youre almost mourning this place thats not even real to you. Lias Kaci Saoudi is on Facebook. It was like Elvis, everyone could agree on that up to a point and then suddenly we could no longer agree on Michael. It was sort of a psychotherapy exercise, except Im not remotely qualified to be doing that.. For news and discussion about South-Londons finest. 1. Saul was extremely controlling in lots of ways. I didnt want to sit and watch Countdown., Well, thats not quite true. Lias Saoudi: Most of them are in panic mode. 1', Music Of The Month: The Best Albums And Tracks Of October 2022, Songs At The End Of The World: An Interview With HMLTD, tQ's Exclusive Monthly Round-Up Playlist: March 2023, Music Of The Month: The Best Albums And Tracks Of March 2023, tQ's Exclusive Monthly Round-Up Playlist: February 2023, Love Songs And Monster Songs: Jad Fair's Favourite Albums, Their New House: House Of All Interviewed, Personal Anthems: An Interview With Heinali. PKM: Lets talk about your prose writing a bit: Life Beyond the Neutral Zone, was wonderful to read, I had so much fun reading that. [4], On 10 March 2014, Fat White Family issued their first single, "Touch the Leather", on Hate Hate Hate Records. Listen to Snow Is Falling in Manhattan by Purple Mountains. Happy birthday Yayoi See Yayoi's biggest gallery exhibition yet opening May 12th at . Some music . They met up sporadically, about once every month or two. Sonically, for me, its kind of like climbing back into the womb. The only thing that could destroy us is even a modicum of success, Lias jokes. You dont want to be in the middle of the countryside with just a dog, do you? With thanks to Adelle Stripe. People listen to me. Im constantly looking for somewhere to kind of like, make home, but it never really adds up. There are no real rules, he continues. Since forming in 2011, Fat White Family have released three acclaimed albums of insalubrious post-punk and are known for their provocative live performances. It conjured up an image of a place. At that point we had an album recorded, so we just started recording another, says Luke. Tastes Good With The Money from the Serfs Up album: Fat White Familys website: https://fatwhitefamilymusic.com/, PLEASE KILL ME INTERVIEWS THE FAT WHITE FAMILY. One of the people behind the festivals high-concept clubbing area Block9, Gideon Berger, had been one of those early fans of Come To Me Villa, and he booked Decius for a brief live slot at the zones central queer club The NYC Downlow, which was modelled after New Yorks legendary 80s venue Paradise Garage. Musician Lias Saoudi discusses with Ivan six things which should be better known. That would be totally impossible. Lias Saoudi, lead singer with Fat White Family, performs on the Big Top stage on day one of the Parklife 2016 Festival on June 11, 2016 in. I went to a Protestant school as a result. I had my eyes closed the whole time and I drifted into a kind of trance. Even Anish Kapoor makes an appearance. Fat White Family are an English rock band, formed in 2011 in Peckham, South London. "This was long, long, long before the preposterousness of the whole thing. You can stream "I Am Mark E Smith," and check out a few more in flagrante (NSFW) instagrams from FWF's Bowery show, below---, 100% naked 75% of the show. I escaped and stood and watched it from the perimeter. [8][9] Lias Saoudi described the album as an attempt to really to get at the shittiness lurking in the core of my own soul, and in everybody else's.[10] It was promoted with a single for "Whitest Boy on the Beach",[11] which was later chosen for the closing credits of the 2017 film T2 Trainspotting. Lias Saoudi: Basically, yeah! It was only ever really going go one way to a certain extent, which was complete anti-authoritarianism. By Gregg L. Friedman MD, I really miss the great musical groups of the 1960's. But then it also hasnt helped my martyr complex. Theyre all very fragmented, but as it proceeds it starts to descend into darker, more autobiographical sketches. Family: Opening Hours: Monday - Wednesday: 1630 - 0000 Thur: 1630 - 0100 Friday: 1200 - 0100 This is the definitive account of Fat White Family's disgraceful and . Fuck all you lot. Just go down to New Malden and howl some falsetto over a beat for a few hours. He holed up at a . The site covers music, art, culture, fashion, poetry and movies from the 60s through today. CORRECT. You just quietly curse the day you were born until its over, channel that self-despising energy, and then its the end, he says. I was really nervous, he recalls. . But its got to the point where I feel a bit grossed out by a cigarette. Thats the first surprise. Fat White Family's Lias Saoudi says Idles 'represent everything that is wrong with contemporary cultural politics.' Idles Are Feuding With UK Band Fat White Family About Social Issues Music And making a music video is like hanging them up on a meat hook in the public square, you dont want anything to do with that ever again. For me, the reins were off. For the others, too, the project was a release. You cant really have a bunch of tunes on while youre busy concocting alternative truths and softcore character assassinations. All that carry on, for me, is circumstantial and social. I was kind of like, almost angry and bitter at it when it first kicked off, in a way. As soon as we got some live gigs we started getting it together a bit more, says Quinn. Bang to rights. The process of writing forced Saoudi to confront many of the conflicts and resentments he and his bandmates had avoided for years. I want to morph into a writer at some point, like at age 40. Along with author Adelle Stripe, Saoudi wrote Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure, a biography of the band published earlier this year by Orion. They make me powerful. Fat White Family's next single, "Breaking Into Aldi", was released on 16 August 2016. The black pill is what I subscribe to at this point. For one thing, the obligatory press quote for the track saw Saoudis pseudonym Meat Divine spinning a yarn about The purity of the connection you had with one of your clients - a Lib Dem MP - who used to make you dress like a geisha whilst peeling a never-ending mound of organic carrots in a Raddisson Hotel suite. Saoudi, however, rejects those accusations. I gave up on collecting records around 13 years ago. Maybe thats a conventional opinion. It was Quinns idea to start booking some early live shows, the most pivotal of which was at 2019s Glastonbury Festival. All that competitive kind of thing, everybody trampling to get this and thatits all gone, which feels like a bit of a relief. Lias Saoudi: If youre a band at our level or above, and youve already got a following, maybe theres some potential in it. Quinn wasnt present for those initial recordings, but when he heard what theyd made, he tells me over the phone in a separate conversation, it was just like, bloody hell! It was completely different to all the other house music around. Lias Saoudi, frontman of Fat White Family, has said he's working on a book about sex therapy.. READ MORE: Fat White Family live in London - long-awaited return of gigs finds the band on . Whod have thought?, Anything with me in it. PleaseKillMe.com is the home of Please Kill Me: the Uncensored Oral History of Punk. He is also the debut guest editor ofAmbit Pop, a new annual issue of the venerable quarterly arts magazine. Nobody was the focal point, everybody was the frontperson. So what begins as a kind of formulaic rereading ends up becoming quite shocking, exposing borderline damning bits of self-exhibition and self-laceration. Its real close to the bone about that kind of experience where youre half working-class northern, half Muslim immigrant and the inevitable disconnects things just dont quite approximate, in a way. PKM: You cant learn that dynamic online. To me, that sounds like absolute hell. Javi Aznarez drew a wonderful cartoon. And sometimes thats something I can really dig into and make a use out of, like literally make a song and dance out of it, and sometimes you feel kind of homeless. Follow us. Theres not a mad rush on, which is kind of nice. Usually its like, oh, we gotta hit this part of this cycle at this pointthats all gone. My parents had their own detatched bungalow in a fairly decent bit of town and two cars. I think that the way the protests have broken out is really hopeful. The band, fronted by Southampton-born[1] and Cookstown-raised Lias Kaci Saoudi,[2] formed in 2011. Lias Saoudi performing with Fat White Family performs at South Facing festival, London, in August last year. Lias choice of clothing in U Instead Of Thought might cross one boundary too many for some, however. It was on The Big Breakfast, remember that? [18] It is nominated for the 2023 Penderyn Music Book Prize. Chrissy Blake hosted my interview with Peter Blake. I was chuffed! They released the track as a 12 via More About Music, the label of Paranoid Londons manager Mark Potts, without fanfare and without disclosing their personal identities. It was really nice to just let Decius breathe, says Quinn. Its basically his reading history: he picks 52 books Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Svetlana Alexievichs The Unwomanly Face of War and goes through his personal relationship with each of them. Co-written with lucidity and humour by singer Lias Saoudi and acclaimed author Adelle Stripe, Ten Thousand Apologies is that rare thing: a music book that barely features any music, a biography as literary as any novel, and a confessional that does not seek forgiveness. We were in London, but we were never really accepted, and it was like a building stew of animosity. Their lead singer talks to Rupert Hawksley about their darkest days, and why Elvis Costello has capitulated to the controlled society, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Writing during lockdown, says Saoudi, was the first time Id been truly happy creatively since I was a teenager. Like, always siding with the IRA. Lias Saoudi, the band's frontman, has a reputation for shedding clothing at . Or listen to our Sweet 16 live podcast series. It was just the most fulfilling thing. Im going to go and try Margate for a bit, I think being half Algerian, raised in Northern Ireland and Scotlandtheres some sort of connection there, between the Berber people and the Celtic people. Well kill it before it grows!, Decius' debut album Decius Vol I is released on May 13 via Decius Trax. 00:00. A dependency on streaming poured into the gaping hole left behind. All the different places you come from, how has that affected the music you write as a band? An artist has an ability to draw the line amid the chaos and mess of human experience and thats the end of it, he says, glass back down on the table. A fantasy that Id spend ten years toying with or trying to kill, that I finally submitted myself to fully only recently, was born in me. Wed just hit record, go for as long as we want, says Luke. Streaming and a life spent for the most part on tour in the decade that followed altered my listening habits considerably. I guess by [the standards of] a normal persons life I was definitely a junkie as well. I became largely dependent on my comrades to do the archiving and deep diving, especially my songwriting partner Saul Adamczewski, whose inner record nerd only seems to expand with age. Other collections are more conscious: books, records, trainers, T-shirts, likes. The second surprise is his appearance. Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure. So I just did way too much Charlie. With Luke, Liam and Quinn playing behind him in custom-built black boxes, he strode out onto the catwalk stage in a gold suit, doing his best to impress the disgustingly beautiful people absolutely everywhere as he strutted, but when it came time to sing his first note, he instead vomited all over the stage and audience. I don't know if this coincident or design, but it's Good Friday and Fat White Family have today released their third album, Serf's Up.It's a record they had to leave London to make, forged in Sheffield where they dieted on ketamine, Yeezus and one Wham b-side. You see whats happening now with mass protests, and its like so, say we all went in a tracing app, and we all had to sign up to it, but then anybody that goes out on a protest is suddenly biologically invalidated from going to a pop concert, or eating in a nice restaurant, or taking a train somewhere. If youre a younger band, just starting outand youre yet to carve out a following for yourselfwhats the point of doing it online if nobodys watching? One ready to go now, then another to follow quite quickly afterwards.. To find out more, click here. Join Facebook to connect with Lias Kaci Saoudi and others you may know. 22/09/2020. Thats not to discredit him, we needed that structure, but having been in that constrained position for so long, to just be like, Heres a beat, do what the fuck you want for ten minutes that felt a lot more akin to the way we perform live, where youre just howling whatever syllables come into your mouth. PKM: You were at one of the Black Lives Matter protests in London a few days ago. I was so terrified I was gonna get crushed, I was this little dude getting thrown around, it was horrible. I mean, where would you draw the line? I also found I could no longer remember the names of anyone I was into, everything became kind of ephemeral. I grew quite lazy. The Fat White Family frontman on sonically tripping to Sarah Davachi, rewatching Threads and a heroic history of poo in art. Our government and your governmentits almost like nobody actually knows what theyre doing. I think thats something Id like to move away from: monotone rage and anger. Sitting watching TV, I remember the video came up. You need all of your focus for that. Its really hard to find that place again once its got some kudos, then youre suddenly in this hall of mirrors of anxiety and expectation. Its like if not now, when? I dont understand where the line is. I had never been a words man really but in that moment I was changed forever. Heroin just f***s everything up. Harmer pitched a tent in the graveyard at the end of the road. Trashmouths HQ in South London became a space for no-judgement experimentation. I tried Sheffield for a while. 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