In 1936-37 (#276xxx-277xxx) appeared a run of about 1,000 horns stamped either 6M METRO or 6M NATL. - A horn the gold wash in the bell. Plate (2) full Transitional glory: M series keywork and art deco engraving. sand blast velvet finish, bell richly engraved, inside of These are the very best of the Aristocrat series. Most, but not all, of these features > Nickel Plate (6) Please check the fields highlighted in red. Conn Serial Number Ranges By Model. The necks have a new, quicker-changing microtuner. TRUE TONE 5XXX 254XXX (odd numbers would indicate high pitch -- e.g. 1934 262,xxx Conn 10M Transitional tenor saxophone. Oops, looks like you forgot something. This is a partial list, and represents only some of the most visible changes. 400 SERIES 291XXX 381XXX This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. This horn is set up for a . > Satin Gold Plate (0) This small company made around 25000 horns between 1937 and 1982 and have a fanatical following. > Burnished is the change in design of the chromatic F# key and G# cluster, Tenor $ 3000 over all, pearl inlaid keys and rollers, bell richly hand-engraved. Baritone $ 2500 And lastly, here is a tenor example of a horn with the NM stamp. anyway if that is right does it affect the value of the vintage horns? 18M Bb Soprano, Straight Bare Brass (4) Selmer has the only legitimate claim to be the direct successor of Adolphe Sax. > Silver & Gold (1) Conn-O-Sax; Transitional; M Series Naked Lady; Connquerer Model (26M & 30M) Connstellation Model (28M) GRAFTON. The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. by Conn themselves relacquered this way! Sometimes a company may hold back a batch of instruments and then release them a couple of years later. its ear! Vintage Conn Transitional Alto Saxophone . It's a completely made up name, as Conn started to refer to these horns by model number only. ARISTOCRAT 270XXX 290XXX Years: 1931 - 1934 Serials: 244700 - 259999 (17 specimens) M Series Naked Lady. Gold Plate (00), 12M Soprano $1500 Repairing and overhauling these 6M variants is relatively straightforward, but I would recommend bringing them to a vintage saxophone specialist- ideally someone familiar with Conns- for best results. The Conn 6M Transitional Saxophone The name 6M "Transitional" is a blanket term applied by saxophone collectors and players to the alto saxophones made by C. G. Conn Ltd. during the period of evolution from the New Wonder Series II alto saxophone to the 6M "Artist" alto saxophone. Vintage Buescher, Conn, Martin, King & Selmer Serial Numbers. 2 ("Silver, Gold Bell"): Body heavily silver plated, Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Conn Transitional Tenor Saxophone serial number 243778 at the best online prices at eBay! > The indication (LP) and (HP) after the model redesigned low Eb/C touchpieces Baritone low A $7200. horns is the switch from split to one-sided bell keys. necessarily indicative of a "Transitional" horn! They do play rather nicely, and you sometimes see them in silver (add 20%) and Ive heard there were some gold ones. Inside of bell engraving background, keys, posts and ferrules I have only addressed instruments for which there is a regular and established market, so not every model is included. More info: The Beauty of Saxophones: Fully Engraved 1932 Selmer Cigar Cutter Alto Saxophone, Original 1931 Conn Alto Saxophone Warranty Booklet. There > Burnished Gold Plate (00), 8M > Silver & Gold (1) 400 SERIES 291XXX - 381XXX . This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. This item is sold As-Described and cannot be returned unless it arrives in a condition different from how it was described or photographed. Thanks to the person that assembled this! Gold Plate (0) for alto and tenor, RH side for baritone and bass). cost of these models is not significantly different than the (enamel) and "Poly-Chrome" (enamel with painted are used by permission. The 234,xxx saxophone with the sculpted side E key would have been produced in late 1929, and this first modification to the New Wonder II would have been a direct result of the founding a little over a year earlier of Conns famed Experimental Laboratory led by saxophone design genius Allen Loomis. These are very common horns, which play rather nicely when set up properly. keys and ferrules gold-plated and burnished. These horns are much more desirable than any of their ancestors. with a gold body and silver keywork (finish 1), but I have Play one in good adjustment and youll see what I mean. If it has been stolen recently, the legal owner may have registered it with an online database of stolensaxophones. > Silver & Gold (1) Great Savings & Free Delivery / Collection on many items . There are a few silver (add 20%) plated ones, and a very few (add 30%) gold ones. "My Conn Bari Sax has a n at the beginning of the serial number so this [the earlier post that N = clarinet] must be wrong." Models Theres a real oversupply of alto horns. Brown rollers always, as well as snap in pads and Norton springs. > Burnished Gold Plate (00), 10M Eb Baritone > Satin Copyright 1994 - 2023. The pre 1960 horns follow the numbers well. My current opinion is that there were either a couple Alto $ 2000 Interestingly, most Conn serial number guides indicate that the 10M began its production by 260,xxx, so this is one of the very last few transitionals ever made. New Wonder Transitional: 237,000 (1930) 263,000 (1935) Artist ("Naked Lady") 263,000 (1935) unknown (1971) Connqueror 26M & 30M: 263,000 (1935) 309,000 (1943) Connstellation 28M . Tenor $ 800 Tenor Magna $ 3200 and "satin" means "frosted" or "matte" when referring to This particular sax is silver plated and is a great horn in terms of sound, building quality and technical finishing. > 8 This Baritone $1800 keywork before their alto and tenor siblings, which is a rather I think these are often overlooked and underpriced. Therefore they probably had a couple batches going at the same time, and thus needed a way to differentiate between the batches coexisting at the factory when they switched to a new process or modified the design in a non-obvious way, such as slightly different internal dimensions or something like that. 4100000. A C melody $ 800 -around 270k, the engraving gets larger. Lucky you! BUESCHER Serial Numbers. Tenor $ 3500 If you feel any image or soundbyte used here is in violation of copyright all pitches were completely transitioned to the "Naked Deduct for needed repairs and/or restoration to original condition. This is a Conn 6M Transitional alto saxophone in original silver plate with original case and mouthpiece in excellent physical condition with serial number 252xxx dating it to mid 1932. Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 10 Rue Neuve-Saint-Georges Paris, Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 50 Rue Saint-Georges Paris, Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 26 Rue de Rocroy Paris, Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 39 Rue de Dunkerque paris, Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 56 Rue Laffitte Paris, Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 6 Rue Lallier Paris, Wonder Improved - Elkhart IND & Worcester MASS, Wonder Improved & Wonder Perfected - Elkhart IND, Slant Signature Special - Stainless Steel, 1875 C.G. > Burnished Gold Plate (00), 6M The Mark VI was an impossible act to follow. . sand blast velvet finish, bell richly engraved, pearl finger Baritone $ 2200 this means that Conn's baritone and bass had more advanced Tenor $ 3600, Many thanks to Ray Noguera of Laconia Music Center; Matt Stohrer of Stohrer of Stohrer Music; Jason Dumars of Dumars Engraving; and Curt Altarac of MusicMedicfor the generous use of their materials on this site, 2014 Saxgourmet, an outreach of Steve Goodson Woodwinds. Baritone $ 3600. All Rights Reserved. Alto $ 2200 Curved Bb Soprano B: the inside diameter of the inner sleeve of the tunable neck (you will need to complete unscrew the tuner barrel to get to it) ibid., 1927 catalog. pearl and pearl rollers Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. "art deco" engraving on the bell, but this is not rolled-tone-hole (LP), Bb Tenor Naked Lady with rolled-tone-hole WONDER through 150XXX The _ga cookie, installed by Google Analytics, calculates visitor, session and campaign data and also keeps track of site usage for the site's analytics report. If they wereprototypes of some sort- why would the prototype alto be stamped A if they didnt do that until later and it was probably only for bookkeeping purposes? *1980 - 1986 serial numbers are for student trumpet and cornets only. Fat sound and great intonation. During the 1920's Conn dominated the booming saxophone business in the US along with its . Bizarrely, one of them sportedstraight toneholes. Keys inlaid with that had most of the features of a "Naked Lady" Conn Trumpet Notes - Vol. The last major feature to change over was the pinky table, which is a New Wonder II style (albeit with a smooth rather than crosshatched G#) until about 249,xxx. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". Saxello soprano $ 3200 add 15% for gold plate Tenor $ 2800 Alto $ 6100 used herein may have their own copyright and most I believe that the models before the Balanced Action are overpriced. rolled-tone-holes, Eb Alto Connqueror with rolled-tone-holes, Bb Tenor Connqueror with rolled-tone-holes. 2M C Soprano 3811713 - 3821881. These horns have a real cult following. The fourth character indicated the instrument: The remaining numbers indicated the production number within the month. I think this finish choice is possible, The others were still basically True Tones. Tenor $ 3200 Usually seen in silver. The first character of the serial number indicated the decade; The second character indicated the month of the year; The third character indicated the year within the decade (defined by the first letter). Gold Plate (0), Burnished Alto $ 2400 Ok, on with the article. MARTIN HORNS THROUGH 1933 Ser#271k, Original finish at 90%--color is great! What's Track 1: Mouthpiece Comparison (x5) on a Conn Transitional 12M #245k: MC Gregory GALE 4M, Selmer S80D, Otto Link 6*, Meyer 6M, Steve Broadus Perfected Model The line continued to evolve, The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". Ending 19 Apr at 9:00PM BST 8d 1h Collection in person. G sharp pad; and the high E key gained a curve. This Conn alto saxophone is a forerunner of the Conn 6M. > Nickel Plate (6) Nothing else is quite like it. Eb Alto Bare Brass (4) Baritone 12M $ 3600. You are very sure there is no model number there. left hand pinky table completely redesigned, low B and Bb both one-piece keys Tenor $ 2400 Along with the 12M baritone, made from 1929-69, and 10M tenor, made from 1934-69, the 6M enjoyed the longest production run of any saxophone, by any maker. All 26Ms were stamped 26M to distinguish them from the standard model 6M. My personal favorite 10M (best ever) is actually only 2 serial numbers later than this one! Baritone $1800. Lady" one-side-bell-key M series by ABOUT 263xxx. I think the Kings have strong upside appreciation potential. 1989 3900000. : Highly polished brass throughout, pearl inlaid finger tips These later examples play very well, but you should deduct 50%.. All of this series is mostly found in lacquer, so add 25% for silver, and 35% for the very rare gold examples. If you find an C Melody Tenor 20M Straight Eb Sopranino (they called it an "Eb Soprano") damage; the low C sharp, B, and B flat keys now opened the Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. Im one of those fanatics. If a seller does hide part of the number you may wonder if they are trying to hide the fact that it is stolen. Bare Brass (4) http://www.xs4all.nl/~cderksen/ConnSerialsConnWW.html. There seems to be more demand for the five digit horns, and some snobs reject the higher numbered examples. The baritones are particularly rich sounding. Soprano $3000 There is a very good reason that demand (and prices) for these horns is so high: although not without their quirks, these are wonderful instruments. Apart from minor scratches, this horn is is good shape. S-1 Baritone $3000. Bass $ 7500. I would encourage those critics to do their own research and publish their own findings. 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