Pull up a .308 round with a old-school hunting bullet (eg, Nosler Partition) and then look at the new, very slick hunting bullets with higher Bcs. 6mm Caliber / .243" Diameter . Fitch johnnyk Well-Known Member Joined Dec 24, 2001 Messages 2,441 Location Potters Hill, NC Feb 5, 2010 #3 I agree with Fitch. Im currently considering an upper in 234WSSM compared to a complete DPMS GII rifle in 243 and the up front cost and weight are my biggest concerns since I can reload. At 55 grains, its bullet achieves 3,910 fps; at 100 grains, 2,960 fps. Basically comes down to using the right tool for the job. If you think the .243WSSM is hard to feed give it to DArcy Echols he will make it feed it is all geometry and math.He used to purposely get a table at the CADA show in Denver next to Don Allen whos rifles were pretty but did not feed worth a _______. There is a lot to cover when it comes to carrying a firearm for self-defense. Quality barrels commonly of a stainless steel variety, are better, are harder, combined with improved technology, simply do not produce excessive barrel wear. SST Superformance (BC .415) zeroed in at 200 yards drops 6.8 @ 300 vs. 7.6 for the 165gr. 6mm Creedmoor. Its time to move on. In Stock. Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). The #1 enemy of barrels is heat. Just a fantastic shooter that is flat, hot and will absolutely drop a deer in its tracks. The Truth About .243 WSSM (Winchester Super Short Magnum), Santa Claus and Stevens Arms: Blast from the Past, NY Gov. Its lightweight, delivers fairly low recoil and, tends to be accurate. Concealed Holster Review. The .243 Win cartridge is an excellent option for hunters and shooters who want to make long-range shots. You need to be looking at Berger and Barnes. But my question is about install a varmint barrel. and they work just fine. Wear good ear protection. I guess people just like new things. I have a 243 wssm in the stealth II model. In a few particular circles, it has been efficiently used as a Law Enforcement sniper caliber as well. It is a versatile cartridge that is well-suited for a variety of game and target sizes. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Go ahead play with JBMs program, and use the bullet library. $200-$300 (2) $300-$400 (16) $400-$500 (44) $500-$750 (59) $750-$1,000 (48) $1,000-$2,000 (52) $2,000-$5,000 (23 . (originally the .244 Rem. If only we had a standardized long action semi like the ar15. Read the article, that issue is specifically addressed. The David Tubb 115g molycoated projectiles have a G1 BC of .612 standard and .635 when tipped. . I have no idea why. Lots of calibers to chose from. But they are good long range cartridges for hunting the medium size species of big game such as deer, sheep, goats, and most antelope species. Originally designed for long-range varminting, the boattail-base, hollow-point, cup-and-core projectile nicely pulls double-duty for hunting deer-size game. SKU : HP22ARMN. I.E. May as well look into building an AR-10 in it. First, know that the shape, mathematics, and engineering behind the case design is very important. . When a loaded AR-15 magazine is inserted and seated in the action, the cartridge alignment is such that it is more directly in line with the chamber and the feed ramps support the rest of the chambering. Make Offer. Ammo magazine ar-15 pistol platforms Brownells. Yes. I would easily venture there are WAY more AR-15s sitting around than there are AR-10s on the market, that in just a few moments and by popping out two take down pins that AR-15 can now be converted with an upper to a hunting rifle just that easy. The performance of the cartridge wasnt in question if it made it into the chamber and the trigger was pulled. . Internet "Experts" are a dime a dozen and will not be of any help if, and when, any problems should appear. The .308? I have the 117s but havent gotten a good load out of my Match-barrelled Savage Striker pistol 243 WSSMbut got a 243 WSSM AR pistol idea in the works for intermediate range coyoteswell see. The holdover for small targets like coyotes is not bad at 500yds either. 969 - 6.5-243 WSSM 1102 - 22-250 1143 - .243 WSSM 1165 - 0.243 1230 - .220 Swift 1273 - 25-06 1329 - 300 Weatherby 1358 - 223 WSSM 1499 - 264 WM 1620 - 257 Weatherby 1746 - 30-378 So yes the .223 WSSM is getting up there into legendary 264 WM barrel burning country. By no means an obscure cartridge, many manufacturers produce the 243 Win with every conceivable bullet type. The polymer tip resists deformation, maximizes long-range performance and promotes expansion. The purpose of an autoloading rifle is to throw multiple shots down range quickly so if you are not going to be using rapid fire then I dont why you would want to use the AR Platform. The round was introduced in 2003. I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway. [2] The correct name for the cartridge, as listed by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI), is 243 WSSM, without a decimal point. But Ive seen that tiny round zip through everything but the vitals too many times to recommend it for a new shooter whos shot placement is less than perfect. There has been a 645 wildcat for some time, and you can find .243 pills that are substantial improvements over anything the .223/5.56 can launch, especially in the 105 grain space, where the benchrest boys & girls have spent the last three decades tuning the performance of .243/6mm bullets and ballistics. No spam. Id absolutely love a .243 autoloader if the price was right. Still, this round shines for its ability to efficiently take down the game at further distances, especially when coupled with the best scope for .243. Using the M80 ball ammo, they were quite reliable, and they hit plenty hard. [3] Winchester has discontinued the manufacture of 243 WSSM ammunition. Owning one, I can answer some of your questions: 1. I am not opposed to innovation when there is an obvious improvement to be gained, but? Also, if you read the article, youd know that .243 WSSM is a very high performance, high energy, high velocity long-range precision and hunting cartridge that takes a umber of good features from other calibers and combines them in a way that no other cartridge does. Reading through blogs, forms, and rifle owners comments on the .243 WSSM, they all point to one key failure. Purchase Now. A small cartridge for an accordingly small rifle, but one that permits the kind of accuracy that amounts to fast and clean kills. Youre not going to see the best bullet designs out of Hornady, Nosler, Sierra, etc. Throw in an 18 barrel as opposed to a 16 and youll probably get that 50fps back. The reason the .223 was initially used for sniping is because the AR-15s are chambered to allow for a semi-automatic rifle, it has little logistic and repair issues, minimal re-training for operation and maintenance and negligible recoil to reduce training and flinching. There is no one out there who is going to tell me that the .243 WSSM isnt over-bored. The .223 Rem. The 243 WSSM was first introduced in 2003. Cabellas Currently has some 243wssm. Downrange at 800+ yards, however, those bullets had all the ballistic fervor of a .22LR. Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Show Results Show Results. Winchester introduced the 243 Win in 1955. I get excellent groups with the rifle. I have a model 70 243 wssm super shadow (plain bottom of the line model 70) I use sierra 55gr and 85gr loads. Your email address will not be published. Stay with me here . Another caliber bullet? Instead, they just hoped to retro fit it into existing platforms. The round is just too darn long. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a8b1a83a6dc9085f984ccc53d8e6bfef" );document.getElementById("c66d09f25a").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. You are using an out of date browser. %* . A lubalox, black oxide coating is also used to reduce barrel fouling and engraving forces. The .308 Winchester is the most popular sniper cartridge and was used as the standard round for western service rifles for more than four decades due to its exceptional accuracy and slight blast and recoil. But Ive spent way too much time tracking deer from new shooters who thought they missed their deer with the 243, only to find it dead a long way away after too long of a track. After serving in the military, Beau got himself even more guns. $460 47. Experienced shootists learned this oh-so-long-ago with the .22-250. Gman Gold $$ Contributor Let your fellow shooters know share this article using the Facebook, Twitter and other social media icons below. I have since long throated the chamber to allow for David Tubb 115g projectiles to be seated forward (OAL 2.400) this leaves only the boattail in the boiler room so 45g of ADI 2213SC for 3050 fps. It seems to me that whatever this .243 round can do some other standard and popular caliber round can do already. My first rifle was a Browning a-bolt 2 in .243WSSM bought in 09 it was second hand and abused (the feed lips were blacksmithed with vicegrips) the thing looked as though it lived in the back of a ute. In fact, Tom Spithaller, Director of Sales, Olympic Arms, Inc., told me their .243 WSSM demo rifle, made in 2004, is still used regularly, and has approximately 8,000 rounds thru it. The 243 WSSM is 38 in (9.5 mm) shorter than the 243 Win, giving the 243 WSSM the ability to fit in a super-short action rifle. In fact, well look at everyone and give you our long range optics ranking opinion. H1000: WLR: 2.434: 28" 3220: Awesome Accuracy! Anything that can kill an elk can kill a moose, The best advice though is to take the time to properly break in a barrel per the barrel makers recommendations. The 243 Win is an exceptionally accurate round, in part because its low recoil prevents flinching. With a low initial velocity, it has the steepest exterior ballistic arc. I've tended to like cartridges like the .243 Winchester, .243 WSSM (Winchester Super Short Magnum), the never-to-be-discarded .25-06 Remington (the best of the wildcats to go commercial), and the workhorse .308 . Your email address will not be published. Improved technology in propellants and the physics behind shorter, wider casings help boost performance. Commercial bolt actions have been so reliable for so long that people who arent gunsmiths have forgotten the years and years gunsmiths spent getting magnum cartridges to feed reliably in standard actions eg, sporterized Mauser/1903/1917 actions. These gunmakers will tend to straighten out the dog-leg in the bolt handle, lop off the sight ears on the rear of the receiver, then polish it up, smooth out the trigger, hang a custom barrel on it, then start working on the magazine/bottom metal. The .243 Winchester has definite advantages in velocity, recoil, and trajectory while the 6.5 Creedmoor is more resistant to wind drift and carries significantly more energy downrange. That 1917 is an interesting rifle as issued. LR Guru Formerly '300NM_guru' LRH Supporter. [8] See also [ edit] List of rifle cartridges What is a sniper, what are his tasks? In factory ammunition, ballistic coefficients vary from around 0.240 to above 0.395. If I wanted to link to an external site, I would have done so. Dan I wish Tubb woulda stuck a polymer tip into that bullet and made it a bit more terminal friendly. It uses a .300 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum) case shortened and necked down to accept a .243in/6mm diameter bullet, and is a high velocity round based on ballistics design philosophies that are intended to produce a high level of efficiency. A comparison of the 243 WSSM with 243 Winchester (second from left) and with 22-250 and 223 Remington (far right). I have had several cases on order for MONTHS (like close to 12 months) and still nothing. Where would I look for one at? I have some guns that shoot minute of barnside. Unsubscribe at any time. Larger 243 Win bullets generally offer sectional densities just greater than .200, which is considered adequate for ethical kills, yet its high accuracy permits surgical shot placement that mitigates the suffering game must endure. This entire article is about trying to get more horsepower out of an AR-15. If only one can be agreed upon by all manufacturers. For most any hunting application this is preferable, unless youre going after larger game where deeper penetration is desired. Olympic Arms produced their first .243 WSSM production rifle in 2004 and included production models in their 2005 catalog. An exercise in the theoretical. The long-necked 6mm AI will have less throat erosion than the short-necked .243 or .243 AI. core lokt @ .314 (150gr) or W;nchester power point @ .294 its enough to make a huge difference downrange. Larger and heavier AR-10 platforms have been chambered to allow traditional, long cased .243s, and they perform well, too. Itd be a bit like a 6.5 Grendel with just a bit more poop. The product is only manufactured periodically, often at inconsistent intervals. You real might want to consider the custom barrel as mentioned. The Best Self Defense Ammo Ballistic Testing. MSRP: $173.50 $115.67. Quit trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear, nut up and do the work we know needs done. The trigger on the Garand or M1A could be made very nice by a competent gunsmith. Get gun deals, hand's on reviews, educational content and updates on law changes daily! MDT Long Range MOA Picatinny Scope Rails for Ruger 10/22Ruger 1022 Scope Mounts in 20 . Item : RAHP22ARMN. Plan on another $140-$160. The 243 Winchester Super Short Magnum or 243 WSSM is a rifle cartridge introduced in 2003. So does Ables. A .243 WSSM is pretty close to a .243 Win in ballistics. Now I am told this round is a super duper pooper scooper and is the end all catch all, too what purpose, speed, accuracy, penetration or just because? m), respectively. Can be supersonic out to 1500 yards and has lots of other bullet selections, recoil a little less than 308. Loaded with controlled expanding conventional bullets, the .243 has ample power to penetrate medium sized deer shoulder bones but will not necessarily exit broadside. I am pretty positive that far exceeds what a normal hunter or recreational shooter would put thru their barrel in a life time (in this caliber). Heavier grain bullets are probably more preferred for most game options but still 4,050+ fps! Keyword ads suck too. This load was used on these long-range . What do you think about the idea of the .243 WSSM (or the .243 family generally) as an AR chambering used for long-range target shooting, hunting, and sniper work? No love for the .45-70?! However, the .243 WSSM does not look quite so bad -- more middle of the pack. for Long Range Shooting? Haha. The deer load had a 100-grain bullet at a listed 3,070 fps and an 80-grain varmint load at 3,500 fps. The money youd save on am-mo would quickly pay for the extra couple hundred bucks over an A-R 15 upper. I currently do alot of varmint and coyote hunting at long ranges. Snipers can then use a semi-automatic sniper rifle or bolt gun in .243 WSSM while being supported by their spotter using an AR in the same caliber. [1] 6mm Bench Rest Remington. You might be quite surprised to see how much the higher Bc pays off. Heres your answer Robert, people own .243 bolt guns. Doesnt Magpul now ship decently priced mags for only one of those variants? It was not originally looked at in relation to semi-autos, I think that is where .243 WSSM or Winchester Super Short Magnum shines brightest. I almost question if those power points arent meant for the .30-30. How long will a .243 last? And if it wont shoot under a half inch after tinkering, I get rid of it. Your email address will not be published. I have a model 70 243 wssm super shadow(plain bottom of the line model 70) I use sierra 55gr and 85gr loads. Getting good hits that far is way more than twice as hard as shooting 400 to 500 yards. Now this difference isnt nearly as significant to shooting a deer at 300 yards as it is to hitting a gong at 1000 yards. And work it does! I have a collection of new SS barrels in a variety of contours/calibers/twists all manufactured by a variety of US marquee barrel makers. Best 9mm Ammo in 2021 [Self-Defense & Target], 6.5 Creedmoor vs .243 Win Cartridge Comparison. I even called up Peter Pi founder ofCorBon(www.corbon.com ) on his cell phone to see if they had any interest in it. Im a bit picky. 243 wssm brass For Sale I don't know why this is what it is S shortgrass Well-Known Member LRH Supporter Joined Mar 31, 2010 Messages 3,581 Location Weatherford, Oklahoma Jan 1, 2015 #5 I think I'd plan on buying the reamer, too. I think that if you decide to run a ton of ammo downrange in a short time, then yes, it would be a barrel burner. I say sadly because the ammo cost $14 per box when I bought the gun and now $60 if you are lucky enough to find it. Full Range Speakers; Fuses & Accessories; Installation Accessories; Marine & ATV Amplifiers; . Nope. If youre comparing say a flat based 150gr. This weight is more appropriate for whitetail deer and other small-medium sized game. The Noslers are a bit higher. I think there could be wide eyed masses of semi-auto shooters waiting for a round like this that they could affordably upgrade their ARs with and have a great hunting caliber available. your buddy that's the excellent gunsmith would be the one to ask. It is an entirely competent cartridge for hunting anything in North America up to and including elk. In my estimation the big case .24's, including the .243 WSSM, 6mm-284, 6mm-06, 6x62, 6x62R, and .240 Weatherby, burn too much powder to be ideal varmint cartridges. powder burnt in percent. Sunday at 12:15 PM #1 152- 3 bags of new 243 wssm winchester brass - $40 a bag 39- once fired brass- $30 or obo 243wssm dies w/ shell holder, shoulder bump insert, and modified case . The .243 WSSM, .240 Weatherby Magnum, .25 WSSM, .25-06 Remington, and .257 Weatherby Magnum can achieve even higher velocities with . While long range shooters and hunters were, and are, focused on traditional (bolt action) feed issues, the mechanical performance failings of the .243 WSSM are simply solved by introducing it into a modern sporting action. 300 BLK? Not worth the extra issues caused by the short-and-fat cartridge. Required fields are marked *. 6mm Remington. I guess that is how progress is made. See target groups and more information on this 105 A-Max load. In 2003, Winchester introduced the .243 Winchester Super Short Magnum and this article compares its ballistic performance against that of the existing .223, .308 and .300 cartridges. $1259 22. .243 bullet is deflected 2 inches less in a 10 mph right angle breeze at 300 yards. Interesting cartridge but I wish it had a common parent case instead of one that appears to bee a pain to get. I think it really is aMust Have, all around, screaming fast AR-15 Caliber. I will second the opinion that you should discuss this with your gunsmith. I tried 100 gr factory ammo in mine and it didnt group hardly enough for a point blank range shot. [7] The 243 WSSM gives generally a 10% increase in velocity over the 243 Win. Bergers 115-grain Very Low Drag boat tail hollow point bullet resolves the ability to buck wind when compared with the .300. - What are the advantages of the .243 WSSM. As a caliber, the 6mm has the least number of commercial members. I have since shot over 1000 rounds that I can account for, no telling how many the last bloke shot, with little regard for barrel life. This is why Im recommending that people play with ballistics tables or an exterior ballistics program. In their ballistics tables, Winchester list a very high muzzle velocity of 4,060ft/s (1,240m/s) with a 55-grain (3.6g) projectile for this cartridge. The sights were head and shoulders above the peer rifles, with match sights being even better. The low velocity also makes this cartridge prone to wind effects. Not bad for a semi-auto ar-15 platform. If it doesnt have good bullets for me to load, I dont want it. which is a great bullet, but it requires; 1-7.5 or 1-7 twist to really stabilize them. No recoil, very short action and drops whitetails like a Mack truck. A lot of modern technology helped it get its primary and supporting characteristics. Considered the entry level deer hunting cartridge in Great Britain, where the Deer Act of 1963 necessitates a caliber of no less than .240 and muzzle energy of no less than 1,700 ft lbs. Ive never used my .243 WSSMs for that purpose but I only load 100gr Sierra Game King its a real good shooter with the 58 gr. For some reason, the design and marketing of the .25 WSSM was, in my opinion, badly off course. More powerful than a 5.56, less recoil than a .308 (or 12ga.). The higher B.C. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Call me when a box of ammo doesnt cost more than filling up my wifes SUV. Secure Online Ordering %local_inventory_count% Free Shipping! COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. WSM and WSSM family of cartridges. That covers Thermal and Chemical erosion concerns. .243 caliber has been around since the fifties. There are dozens of amazing scope brands in the world, but who is the best?! Compared to other factory 6mm sporting cartridges the 243 WSSM is capable of functioning in the AR-15. [6] Other factory produced 6mm cartridges like the 243 Win and 6mm Rem are both too long for the AR-15 and require the AR-10 platform. Although snipers discovered how to counteract the trajectory, it didnt solve the problem. Citadel 1911 Review: Best Budget-Friendly Pistol? Caliber 243 WSSM: Barrel Length 22: Overall Length 39 3/4: Length of Pull 13 5/16: Drop at Comb 5/8: Drop at Heel 1/2: Weight 6 lbs 5 oz: Magazine Capacity 3: Twist Rate 10: Barrel Finish Matte Blued: Stock Finish Satin: Receiver Finish Matte Blued: Chamber Finish Chrome Plated Chamber and Bore: Barrel Material Steel: Barrel Contour Sporter . Once you have a correctly seasoned barrel and it is on your hunting or mission specific rifle dont rapid fire it and allow it to get excessively over heated. I don't know if any of this helps or not. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Sniper's Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts . Twist Rate's Impact on Ballistics Gun deals, hand's on reviews, educational content and news on law changes, every day! Modern propellants are capable of getting burn rates and pressures at lower temperatures. Sounds fun in an ar15. The only downside is availability of ammo. In Stock. More of them have been put up in .375 H&H and .404 Jeffrey, tho. These gimmick rounds (SM/SSM) need to die so the resources wasted on them can be put into non-gimmick rounds. Get free updates when we add new tips, articles and more! Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. IMHO, those are kinda on the upper end of the necessary case capacity and generate unnecessarily strong recoil. 243 Winchester ; 243 WSSM ; 25 ACP ; 250 Savage ; 25-06 ; 25-20 ; 270 Winchester ; 270 WSM ; 30 Carbine ; 30 Super Carry ; 300 Blackout ; . A heavier bullet delivers greater energy upon impact at the expense of faster bullet drop which is nothing skilled marksmanship can not accommodate. Its probably the people who buy the guns chambered in this caliber as their first deer rifle, not the caliber itself, as in its high weight/high BC form the 6mm pill is a ballistic gem. Give me a quality M1A with quality magazines and M80 ball ammo, and Id be happy to compete in a service rifle match. In an AR-type platform, there are two common variants of the AR: The AR-15, which has a .223/5.56 bolt head, and the AR-10, which as a .308/7.62 bolt head. That' more than enough to turn a miss into a hit. In all honesty, I have to say that my fathers bolt action Winchester (never a single feeding issue) has to be my favorite rifle to shoot of them all. [7], The 243 WSSM gives generally a 10% increase in velocity over the 243 Win.[8]. I asked a connection I know, who announced he would be hanging with Winchester at the Live Fire Day before SHOT Show 2016, if he could PLEASE ask Winchester what were the chances of getting some .243 WSSM in production nothing, crickets. Not exactly new. It is a lot of extra work to make into a tack driver and the smiths I have talked to say its easier to work up the 243 win. The 85gr shoots better in mine than the 55gr. Winchester 95gr Supreme Ballistic Silvertip. 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