As an update to my earlier review, I finally did receive the portage yoke I had ordered when I purchased the boat, six months after I received the boat. At 47 lbs, its definitely a breeze to get up on the roof of the car and if I ever had to portage (not likely) I'm sure that it would be very simple as it seems very balanced. $45.95 USD Ash Yoke Mounting Kit Kit to mount ash yoke to aluminum gunwales. The secondary stability is quite good. Wenonah has an extensive line of canoe models that meet the needs of most paddlers, be it touring, fishing, recreation, racing or expedition paddling. Reading reviews of Wenonah canoes helps you better understand their performance characteristics. The workmanship is not high-performance but very good for an industrial crafted boat, especially in big waves (Rhine River). I have flex core with aluminum gunwales, 44 lbs. I like the tractor seat and foot bar: comfortable and gives great leverage. It is Tuf-Weave center rib construction with aluminum trim and foot brace. Ive done 4-7 day trips at Lowes Lake, Raquette River- Long Lake- Raquette Falls, and the three Saranac Lakes. A shorter paddle would work very well with a vertical stroke if you don't mind getting a little wet. But it did like to go straight. Purists cover your ears. . You may recognize the trademarked name Kevlar, which is an aramid fiber. I own a Prism and like it for speed and flat water paddling. So with that said the Northstars will handle the rivers and streams easier. Racing canoes are highly specialized boats. Wenonah canoes are all made in a factory in Winona, Minnesota. These are solid canoes for recreational paddling, but much heavier than Wenonahs composites. All of the reviews are created and written by paddlers like you, so be sure to submit your own review and be part of the community! Use their dealer locator tool to find where to buy a Wenonah canoe near you. First, let me thank all you experienced reviewers and paddlers in the past reviews. If youre ready to start shopping, use the links below to view our Paddling Buyers Guide. The one and only drawback I have found which I was unaware of before I bought it, is that any kind of breeze affects this canoe VERY adversely. This system integrates their standard accessory rail inside the gunwale for mounting fishing rod holders and other equipment. They are ideal for speed and distance paddling and for all people or conditions that demand the lightest gear. It weighs in at 44 pounds, and my only regret is that I didn't save a little longer as a 20-year-old and buy it with an ultralight hull to keep the weight down on the portages. The shoulder seasons, spring and autumn, are good times to start shopping for used canoes. Sometimes they will provide more details, but they may also simply be listed as Fiberglass Canoe. Depending on how informed and thorough the seller is, you may have to deduce the model and materials from photos and check Wenonahs website. I purchased a Royalex Wenonah Wilderness in June of 2010 as my first dedicated solo. I actually find my tandem canoes much easier to portage than the prism. It is qiute stable but with considerable tumblehome I dont lean it too far over. I bought one of the first Prism's about 1993. Beautiful boat, incredibly light. . I have had the boat out without cargo (just the dog and a small day pack) in about a 25 mile per hour wind (small bay w/o significant waves) and didn't have any problems with directional control. Use this chart to help decide which canoe is right for you. I did face a day-long gale on Middle Saranac Lake and I was OK into the wind. This process is ideal for canoes that will not receive the same degree of coddling as ultralight ones. However, no rocker gives it a turn radius like an aircraft carrier, so I don't use it on rivers. It's a great tripping boat and tracks even better when loaded. One size/model does not fit all. With Kevlar or cherry gunnels and thwarts - or both combined, Kevlar seats that are solid and secure including a genius multi-height seat pod system as an option that's built into the hull rather than looking like it's been taped to the hull with kevlar tape, quick-screw yokes that are solid and functional, ridiculously beautiful emerald, ruby, sapphire, or traditional clear kevlar hull options and multiple carbon hull options, it's hard not to look at Wenonah as old-school and Swift as state-of-the-art. Seats, footbraces, and all hardware is then riveted into these plates. After taking over an abandoned factory in Winona, Minnesota, the company exploded, associating itself with the burgeoning canoe racing scene. Simply because while it is a good tracking solo for tripping it is also usable on the rocky streams here in Arkansas. Wenonah Minnesota 3: 3: 20-0 . It's not that Wenonah's quality is poor - my canoe has lasted 20 years without a single problem. After discovering the ideal design, the next step is to choose which material you want for your canoe. (Of course since its a sliding seat with an adjustable foot brace, it is very handy for trimming the canoe for a different wind situations) It removes the option of kneeling while paddling. Its also the most affordable composite material available from them. I took the canoe to the BWCAW in late September. Wenonah's Tuf-weave material is an interwoven fabric made of 50% polyester and 50% fiberglass that out performs either material alone. It needs treating with UV coating otherwise the colour darkens over time, although I like the more mellow colour. Capacity - This canoe can handle a load very well. It's not a work horse, so do not expect to pile it over the gunwales with gear, but I can take about 100 to 125 lbs of gear and not adversely affect the handling. A layer of closed-cell foam in the centre gives the canoe stiffness and buoyancy. I love my Wenonah. Don't have an account yet? The composite materials include the Ultralight and the more affordable Flexcore categories. The standard carrying yokes are made of ash, and they can be upgraded to stronger multi-piece laminate with padding or even lighter carbon. Dont be afraid to walk around with it for a while. In this consolidated catalog, you can view each canoe models specifications and prices, as well as access insightful reviews. Sit and Switch. Wenonah Canoes for Sale Minnesota Canoes is an authorized dealer of Wenonah Canoe, Inc. Our canoes for sale include in stock inventory, incoming canoe pre-sales, and custom canoe ordering. For any thing other than lakes and even then I would go with a DY (David Yost) that Northstar uses over a Wenona design. Their composite canoes are lighter, making them easier on portages. At 65 years old I figured it was time to let go of my 85 pound 40 year old aluminum Michecraft (bless it's dented soul), and upgrade to some form of UL. I am very impressed with the boat and excited to get her on bigger water after paddling her on the St. Croix River today in 2-3 ft pleasure craft swells. Many outfitters in Northern Minnesota use Wenonah canoes in their rental fleet. The seat is placed too close to the center at the factory. At 6'4" and 240 the boat as it came from the factory was definitely running bow down, so the seat and rear thwart went back 5 inches. When I went on my solo trip I found that I did a lot more poking around off of my most direct route. Fifteen to 17 feet seemed to be the right length and somewhere between 35 and 40 pounds was a weight that I could easily handle with all of the portages and ins and outs of such a journey. It's ideal for paddlers desiring more stiffness in their composite canoe. The Prism is our most popular composite solo canoe. Its well rounded stability and moderate rocker make it a great down-river boat while inspiring confidence whether on a loaded tour or evening paddle. Theres little weight difference between aramid and graphite canoes, but expect to pay 10-15% more for this layup. I rented a We-no-nah Prism canoe for a seven day expedition into the boundary waters in northern Minnesota. Thanks, Rick. The footbrace is solid, and, when combined with the bucket seat, keeps you from shifting around so that you get get maximum efficiency out of each stroke. center height with a good amount of tumble home makes for comfortable paddling. Wenonah uses five different blends of composite materials, varying in strength, weight and price. Youll have to get the canoe to the factory, and it will take some time, but this is an option for those who are less handy. When I used her to paddle up a small windy river the Prism was clearly out of her element, even with a lot of heeling. This content was made possible with the support of OntarioCreates. Get the latest Wenonah news: JOIN. along with the wonderful resources, interactive maps, and online community. This is probably the boat to have if you do a lot of extended tripping, but as an over night or extended day paddles, it's great If you are lucky enough to find one, I would not hesitate to buy it. Wilderness 15' 4" Solo Tripper Model + Weight Tuf. These canoes have wide, flat hulls, making them ideal for paddling in flat waters with families, dogs or nervous paddlers. Wanted a solo boat at a weight I could manhandle myself, in Royalex so as to take normal river abuse, and be comfortable in class II water. I sit and switch and I also paddle in classic style. I'm not a pro or a competitive paddler, but I use my gear. I use it both in flat water in a bayou for exercise and in small to medium rivers. It just blows you sideways like other reviewers have also said. But when it comes to things like rattling seats that seem kinda cheap, yokes getting bent and stuck on pins, footrests that seen kevlar-taped in place vs. being integrated into the hull construction, the Swift wins in every way. I have little chance to try before I buy. I know I can lean it and get it to turn better, but doing so with a 60# dog will probably end with one or both of us swimming. MN II is stable under paddle (secondary) but may feel a little tippy when sitting still or moving slowly (initial stability). You'll want to use a kayak paddle on lakes to keep up any speed. Compare. There are also links to find the nearest dealer to buy Wenonah canoes. If you find a Wenonah canoe that needs some major repairs, they may be able to fix it for you. I do like the tough Royalex material in our rocky Missouri rivers, and the weight is manageable, though I'm starting to see the benefit of a lighter canoe. I switch to a straight shaft when I am fishing (trolling) and paddle with a C-stroke then. I found the boat to track fairly well. Solo canoes in this category include the Wee Lassie and Fusion pack boats. Wenonah Canoe Factory Outlet Store Hayward Water Sports is the Factory Outlet Store for Wenonah Canoe. The Boundary Waters Canoe Area is practically in Wenonahs backyard. Easy to stand up in. I was most impressed with how she rode out waves. It carries weight very well. I don't get real technical about my paddling, but the biggest impression I have so far is that I'm in and have the kind of control I never had with a big monster canoe and that equals a lot more pleasurable paddling. I was really happy with the way she handled the wind and waves when loaded, and when empty in the evening while fishing. You can also source epoxy or gelcoat from marine suppliers, and there are many good articles explaining these fixes online. Initially (for the first hour or so - as some people had noted, I was not happy with the "tippiness" feel, but seriously, it was all me, and that just disappeared as I settled in. Due to its light weight I was very careful to tie in to a tree every night, something I never felt necessary with my Grumman canoe! Ultra-light hulls are stiff and incredibly light. Im not a Wenonah fanboy. It turns readily, which was a bit of a surprise considering the speed & great tracking. Great stability, tracks extremely well, and handles waves very well. Tuf-weave canoes offer improved impact resistance and are a great compromise between light weight, performance, and price. It would most likely also work better on the winding rivers here in SC. All this being said, I think the Prism is the most well-rounded solo canoe that I've ever used when it comes to stability, capacity, tracking, and overall performance. Interestingly, initial stability actually seems to improve when I've got gear in the boat. All of the reviews are created and written by paddlers like you, so be sure to submit your own review and be part of the community! This canoe is very easy to paddle fully loaded for a week long trip or just a couple of hours at Town Lake, Austin, Texas. Wenonah Canoe Prism Solo Touring Canoe Watch on CANOE RATINGS Efficiency 8.0 Maneuverability 7.0 Capacity 9.0 Stability 9.0 Seaworthy 8.0 DIMENSIONS Length 16' 6" (502.92cm) Gunwale Width 26" (66.04cm) Maximum Width 30.75" (78.105cm) Waterline Width 29.75" (75.565cm) Stern Depth 17" (43.18cm) Center Depth 12.5" (31.75cm) Bow Depth 19" (48.26cm) T-Formex canoes are manufactured from multi-laminate sheets, painstakingly designed specifically for each model. I've always carried ballast in the stern to counter act the weight of the dog in the bow. Initial stability is diminished and I can only describe secondary stability as being different. Very fast and tracks well. pblanc February 5, 2013, 1:07am #4. However as a smaller paddler at 150lbs it does require more energy to keep it moving than other boats that Ive paddled. These are necessary adjustments for this model and now trim and stability are great, even in rough water. T-Formex or older Royalex canoes can withstand repeated impacts without much damage. Its available as a 15- or 16-foot canoe. I've never felt insecure in wind or waves even when loaded to the brim and on some relatively big water in the Adirondacks. Named in remembrance of Dick Proenneke, a legendary wilderness man who spent 30 years of his retired life living alone in the wilds of Twin Lakes, Alaska, the Wilderness is a solo canoe that can take you far away from it all. I have not paddled a Prism, however the longer length would appear to make it track better, and possibly have more capacity. The larger the solo the more I assume that you will be in the weight range it was designed for with the dog, gear and ballast. Great stability, tracks extremely well, and handles waves very well. My experience is like AndySG's - I prefer a Wilderness to a Prism. Now that all the remodeling is done, the boat is a pleasure to paddle. Wow. This gives a very secure connection and eliminates rivet heads on the exterior. They are good options for coastal canoeing, as the depth helps keep water out in rolling swells. Someone in a review mentioned how someday older guys like me would end up wondering why you didn't buy "smaller", so I reluctantly concluded that a Wilderness at 15'6" was a good compromise of speed, size, manuverability, etc. Any scrapes or gouges penetrating the outer coloured layer and revealing the pale ABS plastic beneath should be refinished. Good boat. Wenonah Canoe :: Wilderness General Touring / Wilderness Named in remembrance of Dick Proenneke, a legendary wilderness man who spent 30 years of his retired life living alone in the wilds of Twin Lakes, Alaska, the Wilderness is a solo canoe that can take you far away from it all. Wenonah assured me that it will still float. I hate saying this. You can also fit several boat cushions between your back and the rear thwart and it's almost like a lazyboy chair then. Today, you'll find a variety of canoe designs available in different materials. Weighing the canoe on an accurate (balance beam) scale it weighs 35 pounds. Holds all my fishing and camping gear--let's see a kayak do that!!! I may get an Advantage someday simply because of the wind issue, but I just hate to give up that wonderful stability. With a few professional lessons and practice, the boat responds to all my directions quickly and smoothly. Included in this category is the flagship Wenonah 17 canoe. The Wilderness carries additional freeboard and bow . T-Formex canoes will tolerate just about whatever you throw at them and are excellent choices if you dont mind the extra weight. It's hard to argue with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but isn't that what Kodak said when digital cameras came out? A 17-foot Spirit II canoe made with T-Formex weighs 78 pounds. Trimming is easy and seems best with a little more weight top the rear. If price is more important than weight, get an Old Town. These canoes are much lighter than polyethylene or aluminum canoes and can be built in nearly limitless designs. Any high performance hull will tend to have quirks when things are not in trim. The Royalex has stood up very well to hits and scrapes on the granite boulders by the shores. How durable is ultralight Kevlar? Incidentally, the Prism handled like a barge fully loaded until I rearranged the gear to improve the trim, after which it was fine; the sliding seat definitely helps the trim, especially when lightly-loaded. Back at camp, I've played around with it plenty of times in my bathing suit, intentionally flipping it over, and I'll honestly tell you that it takes me a bit of intentional effort to capsize. This boat flys. Hope you enjoy your wilderness as much as I do mine, without having to use a saw. I am a large person at 240# and an experienced canoeist. I recently acquired a Wenonah Prism in ultra-light Kevlar. Ultra-light hulls are stiff and incredibly light. Rick, Quote: IMO it does have one serious drawback..If you are paddling smaller streams with lots of twisty turns, this canoe isn't for you. My first impression was the Wilderness had slightly more initial stability than a Voyager, which is enough snapshots but not for tripod and telephoto photography work. I have added the Wenonah seat back and cushion which helped a great deal. There are differences in the design of these canoes that affect their performance on the water. The seat is a little clunky, but it works well. I have been paddling since I was 15, now I'm 43 and spent some of the most happy hours in this canoe, and it does everything I want it too, almost. Tracking - This canoe tracks a straight line. That's what the 18' Sundowner is for. I paddled under those exact conditions (including the 60 pound dog) for many years with a Bell Magic. I customised the seat a little so I can kneel also. We also add extra fabric layers to strengthen specific targeted areas. Tuf-weave is a blend of fiberglass and polyester. Yesterday I picked up a kayak paddle, and that is even better. Wenonahs Flexcore canoes weave a core into the laminate, adding durability to the performance of a composite. I'd give it a 10 except nothing in this world is perfect. A good boat, a sports car compared to the solo plus. My max speed was over 6 mph. Seats, footbraces, and all hardware is then riveted into these plates. I suppose it should track straight, being that it's 16'6" long and has no rocker, but it definitely does a good job doing what it was designed to do. Generally, longer boats with ultralight materials will be more expensive than shorter boats that are built with T-Formex or Flexcore. I use it hard, take care of it, and appreciate it. Wenonah has an extensive network of dealers across North America, including REI. For more tips on what to look for when selecting a used canoe, read our article How To Buy A Used Canoe. The Tuf-weave layup results in our most durable composite canoes. Well give an overview of the types of canoes available, as well as some tips for buying new and used models. Advice. The Tuf-weave layup results in our most durable composite canoes. When you pick the canoe up, give it a shake and listen for any water that might be sloshing around in the tanks, indicating a leak, most likely from the canoe into the tanks. I did not have a problem, but then again, she is fast enough that I get where I am going before the afternoon winds. I use a bending branches 240 cm wood paddle which is very light weight and has that small amount of give that is so nice about wood plus it's warmer in the winter to hold onto than aluminum or composite would be. I'd love to see Wenonah around for another 50 years at least! Day-tripping canoes like the Heron are intended for two paddlers and a small amount of gear. I think it's the perfect boat for an easy weeks worth of gear. In the wind it really helps to be properly trimmed. Bucket seats from Wenonah also come on a slider to adjust forward and back. Typical of most ultralight canoes, maneuvering it can get difficult in the wind. I also ordered the portage yoke but have yet to receive it five months later; the factory reps have been very cordial and prompt in answering my emails but the yoke still has not arrived. I have not paddled the NW solo form a kneeling position, or from a elevated sitting position that would be required after replacing the drops to kneeling drops. 2023 Wenonah Canoe Demo Days Events Rooster Rock State Park, Corbett, Oregon Saturday April 22nd - 10AM to 3PM - West End Boat Basin Hat Rock State Park, Hermiston, Oregon Saturday May 13th - 10AM to 3PM - West Loop Pond Text, or call Jeff @ (503) 956-0561 2023 Tandem Canoes Wenonah Itasca Expedition Canoe at Oregon City Cove Watch on Very fast and paddles well with any style, J stroke, C stoke or hit and switch. T-Formex outperforms single or triple-layer polyethylene plastics as it is stiffer and lighter. While this may not always be possible with a used canoe, prioritize listings where its an option, like outfitters or waterfront locations. Deciding which category best suits your needs is a good place to start when choosing a canoe. The prism is incredibly stable in all the conditions that I have paddled. It works great in rivers stages up level 3. I've tried shifting the weight around but then the canoe loses that wonderful glide. The Fusion and Wee Lassie pack boats are compact, solo canoes that users can paddle with either a canoe or kayak paddle. The Advantage is a joy to paddle for exercise and rewards your . The funky detachable yoke is serviceable enough. Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness (BWCAW). Wenonah rates the stability of the Wilderness as similar to a Voyager. Composite canoes can wear out faster than plastic ones. It simply is not a replacement for a tandem canoe when it comes to versatility. Wenonah canoes are made with T-Formex plastic or composite woven materials. We've used it for more than 30 years to construct extremely light and tough canoes. These canoes are as close to all-arounders as you can get. )sweeeeeeet boat. Bigsilver could you take pictures of your two boats from the end at ground level? I am way lucky to live within minutes of 3 rivers, Wisconsin, Kickapoo and Mississippi, so I do mostly back water and long river runs, with a few trips each season "up North" (BWCA, etc) And if rock solid stability is something you absolutely need, the Rendezvous might be your boat. Also what about paddling options. With a small-to-moderate degree of rocker, these canoes turn readily enough and track reasonably well. The Royalex Rendezvous is better suited to moving water, while the composite is more versatile. The adjustable aluminum seat mount is noisy and even at the lowest setting, I found the boat to be a little top heavy with me in it, so I reconfigured it and dropped the seat two additional inches AND it does not rattle anymore, thanks to a couple of wing nuts and nylon washers. Maine-based Old Town is another storied American canoe builder. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Both techniques have their place. I had to work a bit harder to make her go straight, but I expected that. I plan to sell her only because I have a fear of commitment (or so they say) and just want to try out a different design. Proving a very good choice, it fulfilled all my expectations for a touring boat. It's a lean boat that tracks the best of those reviewed, yet will turn quickly enough, and returns to a stable position more readily than other fast canoes.". They are ideal for speed and distance paddling and for all people or conditions that demand the lightest gear. I've fished in the prism empty and it feels just fine. I can tell you that I took some advice from every review below. All Wenonah Canoes come with standard aluminum trim. I have been a little disappointed in the performance of the kevlar/gel coat however as I have found it has scratched extremely easily right through to the kevlar as the coating is very thin (to keep the weight down presumably). I'm large, 6'2" 250lbs, I traded a solo plus which is longer and heavier. Sports and Leisure canoes would be called recreational canoes by other companies. Or probably a few other solo hulls I can't think of right now. Want to know more? Product descriptions may help give you an idea, but hearing other users experiences gives you valuable insight into where these canoes excel. These canoes are longer and slimmer than canoes categorized under General Touring. Fast upstream. PRISM SOLO TRIPPING 16`6" Compare. I have the wilderness 15'4" from we-no-nah in royalex. Good design with no gurgle when it comes up to speed. Wenonah has more canoe models for backcountry tripping or paddling with more than two paddlers. and it has not failed me in any way. Or a Wilderness. Again, I'm only 160 pounds, so your body weight may be more of a factor when adding gear. Brilliantly designed for extended solo trips it portages well, paddles efficiently, carries plenty of gear and gives a dry ride in rough waters. I wanted an easily transportable solo that would paddle efficiently on flat water and still accommodate occasional Class I-II, especially when burdened with a large paddler like myself (6'2" 260lbs). Lets walk through them. Cane has a traditional look, while webbing is more durable. Great boat! Wenonah Canoe :: Portaging Accessories / Portaging Ash Yoke Attractive and durable. From limited experience with dogs in canoes the larger the primary stability the better. I personally feel this can be down right dangerous in the wrong set of circumstances and it's positively annoying otherwise to say the least. However it never really tracked well and the primary stability was poor. This is in stark contrast to my new Swift Keewaydin 14, which I capsized in the first five minutes of ownership! Rocker is all but gone so it tracks like it's on rails, but takes more effort to turn. Talk about a smooth operator! It is also treated with a UV-resistant coating. That included a 70 pound Chesapeake. When I look at the new canoes being produced by companies like Swift, I can't help but wonder if Wenonah is stuck in 1978. You can choose between bench or bucket seats on most Wenonah canoes. Rick: Canoes are like shoes. 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