18 ft. Mad River "lamoille" kevlar canoe. If replacing Contour or Bucket seats, order from our Canoe Seats link on the Home Page, as they are also manufactured for Mad River Canoe at our specs. Full Details *MSRP: $999 USD / $1,269 CAD Specifications Length: 16' / 488 cm Max Capacity: 950 lbs. I bet the scale lies to them too. Another document states that only the gunnels need to be oiled (as apposed to varnish) as they flex but further reading suggests Gunwale Guard be used on carry handles, decks, and seat spacers. The Serial number is: VTB6009 OM73K As for the finished look, I am satisfied with the colors as the gunwales now match the seat cane and check out the paddle (came with the package deal if you can believe it) it all goes together. Its an all-around canoe, suited for most uses. These canoes are a step beyond recreational canoes. It would be worthwhile to spend the extra money for a kevlar boat. Im tempted to pop over from SW Michigan to buy it just on principle. They were all nice boats, just never caught on out West. heres a thead from the archives: Soon to be floating on a river near you. This ID# is MADSR921C494. Inspiring paddlesports participation through quality coverage of the people, places, adventures, boats and gear, trends and events that make paddling something you'll do for the rest of your life. Planned to take it outside for some glamor shots but this weekend has been absurdly hot and humid. Is that the measurement you meant? Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. The kevlar PVC version was sometimes billed as Kevlar H (for Hybrid). If the boat has been sitting they are likely to be very dry and tear the first time you sit on them. Thanks Mike for the input and I agree many details point to this being a glass boat. OT Camper 15 Thanks again guys. Hello fellow paddlers. Looking for discontinued models or older catalogs? It turns out the Sunrunner is a great boat for touring midwestern rivers and lakes. JavaScript is disabled. CUSTOM MAD RIVER ADVENTURE 14ft CANOE Electric Outboard, Battery, Oars, Cover. I do not know what the "A" represents. Check with the owner and ask how they stored the canoe. 3/8 . Just kidding MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. Want to know more? My number is MAD 14635F000. That said Swift has a Burgandy color standard, and Hemlock makes an excellent tandem that can be Special ordered in whatever color you desire. If you are going to car top your canoe, the lighter the better. 2) The floor just seems to have a "bubble" just like the foam core Kevlar builds show. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe . Based on the specs that Mike provided it relatively narrow and as a "stretched Malecite" your planned load is idealthe boat will be fast, maneuverable, and lightly loaded. You can find nearby dealers by using their dealer locator tool. Might not sound like much, but it makes a big difference. For the prior weight attempt I simply held the canoe on my haunches but in thinking over this method I can imagine how that arrangement could've registered a lighter weight given I was somewhat off balance. This one. You should be able to get an idea of the weight by looking it up. This thread mentions the HIN online directory which I went to and learned that my canoe is likely a 1985 production model Explorer 5021 My question for the experts on this forum is, what is a 5021?? Special If you are looking for a superior built, light-weight canoe, then take a look at at this Mad River 18' TW Special. Mad River Sunrunner. Thanks, Pip. The company was born shortly after the founder, Jim Henry, won the 1971 U.S. National Open Canoe Championship in his hand-built canoe. EDIT: The bathroom scale weight still presents a mystery. It may not display this or other websites correctly. What I can't figure out is what our model is. You may still find some of last years models in shops, and decades worth of canoes on the used market. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe Asking 1250.00 Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Mad River typically appended a "K" to the end of the HIN on their Kevlar boats. And yes Watco is considered an oilthey make many products. Having the weight directly above the scale is more sensible. Mine has paint. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe Asking 1250.00 Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Old Town - Camper 15 from 1996 (an aqua color that the wife thinks is great) and a Discovery 174 - I think the camper will be lighter and easier to load and unload. About 67lbsThe Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. Can you please help me with identifying our canoes model? That looks like a great option. 3/4 . In the centre is a closed-cell foam which gives the canoe buoyancy. by pblanc Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:59 pm, Post You can easily change out the seats. Its a beautiful canoe with graceful lines, Swifts classic two-tone color scheme and features like cherry seats and yokes. If I again come up with 60 lbs then who knows. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. There is little worry about capsizing in calm conditions with the Adventures wide, flat hull. If youre keen on a solo canoe shorter than 12 feet or a canoe for less than $1,500, consider an Old Town. ABS (acrylonitrile butadiene styrene) plastic layers encase both sides of the foam to protect it and add stiffness to the shape. The Sunrunner could handle any kind of weather. You can find some information about discontinued Mad River canoe models on their website. Their heaviest boats are made from polyethylene, like the 85-pound Adventure 16. Here is another twistIn 94-96 the KV versions are listed at 55 lbs however in 97 it jumps to 59 which is just 2 lbs shy of what I measured. Much tougher than I was in my 20's but definitely not stronger. I believe this will be . I tried to add a picture but it says the file is too big. The other numbers just represent production run stuff that does nothing for identifying the specifics of the canoe. Mad River Canoe Replacement seats. Mad River Canoe repair, new ash gunwales, seats, yoke and handles. Do not email or textyou MUST call 410 610 5653, 2005 Hand Made, Custom Built, Wood Strip Modified Adirondack Guide Boat. If the Hull Identification Number on the stern ends in a K it is kevlar, and a boat weight will tell you the rest. BTW, I use the term geek quite fondly! Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. The flat bottom on the Camper makes it feel stable on calm water. I found an older mad river Kevlar 49 and I'm trying to figure out the actual model of the boat. You are using an out of date browser. Mad River's Adventure is their recreational canoe, and it's available in two sizes, 14 and 16 feet. It might stand for an Airex foam core hybrid but that is only a guess. It turns out the Sunrunner is a great b When I redid the cane on a boat recently I used a kit from Ed's which is a bit pricey but worked great, the wedges were helpful. I just found one error in the "Boats By Year" PDF as it states the only KL Sunrunner was in '94 however all catalogs (94-97) list the KL version. The Camper is a nice boat, Ive paddled one. In reality the thing is a bit too pretty for me to drag across beaver dams or portage through downfall. With that said and in regards to your comment Gumpus on the Watco taking forever to dry, everything is still quite tacky. Use the filters below to view the canoes by type, material, size or store. 4/13 . How about personality? People upgrading or cleaning out a garage may just be trying to get rid of the boat rather than recoup much money. I agree that you want as light a boat as you can get to make it easy to use. Completely agreed that plastic end caps are hokey however very practical if this thing will be used as a tripper. I updated with the photos from the ads. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. id of old Mad river canoeI came for a similar reason trying to find the exact material of my MADEX135E787 The serial number was put on the royalex hull using a black marker. The tradeoff is that it does not maneuver as readily. Designed my Mad River founder Jim Henry, and built with a "Kevlar 49" layup, she is both strong and light at 65lbs. Paddlesports participation is booming, driving the demand for outdoor equipment, whether its new or used. 4/10 . I am curious about the "A" appended to the end of the HIN. Its in pretty good shape except for the need for some gelcoat repair and the need to replace the gunwale. Been trying to reach Mad River for at least a week with no luck. Conversely, if you are looking for an all-around canoe with added durability, Mad Rivers T-Formex Explorer 16 is the better choice. 3/4 . Best for leisurely excursions on smallish lakes and ponds, bad for whitewater Ultimately I would. This may not always be possible, especially when buying a usedone. They stockmany canoe parts and are knowledgeable about Mad River Canoes. Was stored in a gara Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield), Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (Lexington), 16' Mad River Explorer Canoe - $400 (WHIDBEY ISLAND). Home run. I will let you know the number. Scored this on craigslist for free! The different materials match various price brackets, and their designs have lasted years because they work. No wood rot. Both have blow molded seats in them. The Adventures are express tickets to the enjoyment of canoeing. Throwback to 2 years ago when we took our new-to-us Sunrunner on its first voyage in a somewhat sad (but up and coming) urban river. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe - $1,250 (fairfield) Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Find Mad River in Boats For Sale. My little Blackhawk tandem performs well even against modern hulls and I think your boat would just run away from my Blackhawk. You might let the ends of your handles, thwarts, and drops soak in oil overnightonce in their lifetime, and I'd drip some oil down those drops. Thank you! Just FYI in case you didnt know Royalex boats are no longer made and the replacement (T-Formex) is heavier and a new T-Formex tandem may cost $2000 so you really got a gem thats worth more than you paid. Prices are subject to change without notice. Wenona Sundowner is a nice model from a respected brand. I am trying to contact the person who posted the ad. Its light for a Royalex boat at 57 pounds if the manufacturer specs can be trusted. We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. Experience Mad River Canoe. If Im reading this right, youre looking for: tandem canoe also usable as occasional solo to fish, mostly lake and pond, no whitewater, no camping. The KA at the end does not count. Boat includes a removable motor mount. I was surprised at the range of canoes available so was looking for some advice. Use the part # shown in the schematic to locate the correct part. I bet he'd take $500. No wood rot.17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. by Paddle Power Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:19 pm, Post Glad I'm not the only one needing to dig into old documents to find answers. by pblanc Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:43 pm, Post by pblanc Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:51 pm, Post Interesting that craiglist postings are so hard to get a response from. Plastic seats with aluminum struts between gunwales for seats (looks like the rivets for the seats go through the hull on the sides). Also not knowing exactly how the different fabrics looked. DarnMy search for a good deal on a tripping canoe continues. Other than the crack in the wood gunwale near the stern end, everything looks fine. Thank you for your consideration. Manufactured mid 1990's17 feet 2 inch long, 33.5 inch gunwale width, 12.5 inch deep center, Bow/stern 19.5, 18.5, 1.75 inches of rocker. Don't worry about the freeboard, you have plenty. 2) Is there any potential problem with a very thin gap between the two-part gunwales on either side as resetting the screws does little to close the gap? Note the raised section does not follow the paint line however so not pointed ends like a football. Tracks beautifully For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 3/4 . Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Craiglist option - a range from a Madriver Sundowner to mid 90s vintage Old Town and Wenonah, Bell Mornigstar Canoe - boats - by owner - marine sale. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. 4/13 . Its a model thats well suited for a specific niche, but that seems to be your niche. Raised none the less. Great all around boat. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. I don't blame you a bit for going after that other boat since it looks to be a fine boat at a great price. Thanks. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for the comments. I like the stability of the Explorer but also the deep red color - although chocolate sounds good. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Nice canoe. / 431 kg Width: @Gunwale: 33" / 84 cm @4" Waterline: 34.25" / 87 cm Maximum: 37" / 94 cm Depth: @Center: 14.25" / 36 cm If the present era of supply chain delays and booming interest in paddlesports has taught us anything, its that used canoes are nearly impossible to find in the summer. Explains the varnish-vs-oil question. I am going to put it all back together today so will send a "finished" photo out later. If you cant find a kevlar canoe you like, then buy a fiberglass one that is not too big. Introducing the new Explorer 16. $600 for the camper and $800 for the Discovery both say original owners. No wood rot. They are not as wide, meaning they wont have the same initial stability. There have been some great deals recently but always a day late. Avoid Royalex boats, cross-link poly, or other heavy types of boat construction. In 2022, Confluence Outdoor, Mad Rivers parent company, announced they were pausing canoe production. Am also going to put out the feelers for more MR boats of this vintage in hopes of scoring another as MN is a good place for this and I have an untapped, affluent source in mind. At 61 lbs it falls oddly in between the listed weights for Fiberglass (67 lbs) and Kevlar (55 lbs). The boat is 16 long. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17'2" touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. New listings: Canoe - Mad River Screamer - $620 (Jamestown), Mad River Lamoile Canoe - $1 000 (Hogwaller) Use the part # shown in the schematic to locate the correct part. I bought the boat in 1976. If moving it around on land becomes too burdensome, youre likely to find something else to do. You can also target your search in specialized pages, like MEC Gearswap or a local paddling clubs used boat listings. That said, if you spot a good condition, reasonably priced Wenona Aurora or Mad River Malecite (especially in kevlar), Id favor those two over the five you listed. Mad River Explorer 16 Canoe. Whether you're interested in canoe touring, tripping or an afternoon of fishing, getting YOU time is as easy as ever. Located in Long Beach, St. Leonard, Md, Calvert County Since the change, all the # tells someone is month and year. The Sunrunner was one of a series of 17`2 touring hulls designed by Jim Henry in the 80s and 90s. I am looking for some of the old fiberglass long decks. I cant comment on the last 2 boats. This content was made possible with the support of OntarioCreates. This gives the Journey and Explorer more secondary stability, which helps the canoe recover if its on its edge in more dynamic water. Does anybody know how to decipher mad river serial numbers? You probably have access to a number of other brands there in WI, but these brands you listed are some of the most common across the country (aside from Coleman and Pelican, which I wouldnt recommend for you), so youre likely to get good feedback. Swift Canoe and Kayak builds the composite Explorer canoes in South River, Ontario, and the T-Formex Explorer is made at the Esquif factory in Framption, Quebec. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best Offer Fiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. Manufactured mid 1990's. The Explorer and the Malecite were their most popular and versatile tandem models. Discussion of all things WhiteWater Canoe related, Moderators: kenneth, sbroam, TheKrikkitWars, Mike W., Sir Adam, KNeal, PAC, adamin, Post The more I read about glass canoes the more I understand their benefits as in rigidity, sharper entry points (efficiency), and lighter than Royalex which I wouldn't have guessed. If you can measure your boat, I can look at the catalog and tell u what model. I'm not as well versed as some folks here are with Mad River canoes but on the whole, it looks like you have a nice canoe. That is an appendage. Beautiful work Micah! Its best if the canoe has been kept inside, or at the very least, away from direct sunlight. Or maybe following a test run in the spring I'll decide to keep it since it is so darned cool??? If you look at the Camper first thing to do is flip it over and see how much wear it has and whether the Royalex skin is intact. A couple even older models show up - a 1980 vintage Pathfinder 15 (which seems to be the predecessor to the camper) - though I am unclear what the weight might be - Old Town Pathfinder Oltonar, and this cedar fiberglass from 1976 a Mansfield Stowe 15 foot - Mansfield Stowe - Seems like this company has been out of business since the late 1990s -. Like the Adventure, the Journey is made with three-layer polyethylene. The best way to know if a canoe is right for you is to give it a try. Like LabsYoure picking a boat like some folks select Labs; I ant a Chocolate Lab. That often results in a poor dog, as color is a poor first determinate. It appears there is even a kneeling thwart just aft of the yoke for when you want to solo it. Wenonah - Sundowner - 18 foot fiberglass (red) and looks to have an adjustable front seat. The one I have is an Explorer Royalex with wood gunwales and deep red (chianti?) Recently picked this beauty up for a song and trying to find out more about it as I could locate only one post from the all-knowing google. Thanks to you both on sharing your recipes for home-brew oil as will probably try this next round. It is a very high quality boat, built back in the day when Mad River Canoe was one of the premier composite canoe builders, if not the premier maker. It is a Mad River Canoe with serial # MADE5021L485 (The badeg is aged and so a little hard to read, so that is the best I can guess at a few of the characters!). The versatile canoe for getting started; great for sportsmen and families, the Adventure 16 is an amazing value. The Pathfinder is $650. I believe this will be lighter than the Old Town. MadRiver was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. color obviously not a factor in performance, but if the wife likes it, its certainly a plus . Mad River Sunrunner no experience with this model. I did get some info from tech support in the form of a '94 catalog. large framed wilderness print under glass canoe river husky blue. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, http://www.paddling.net/message/showThread.html?fid=advice&tid=929356. 1981 Mad River Canoe T.W. I still don't know what to make of the camo pattern inside and out. What I cant figure out is what our model is. Have not looked yet. Finding used canoes requires frequent searching. If its lightly used as the ad says then its a great deal. I am really looking for the same age Explorer in the same deep red color or other non red (cherry) or standard green. ButI can envision it with the seat components, thwart, & yoke matching the gunwales. It was conceived as a replacement for Royalex, long considered the gold standard for bombproof canoes. Granted my HIIN states '94 but??? We bought it at Battenkill Canoe in Arlington Vermont in September of 1997. I would imagine a well-built glass canoe such as this will not oil-can and am wondering if typical kevlar ultralights do? Its a fine small tandem and you would enjoy it solo. Excited to get a second opinion. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe. I may see one in person which is Mad River Explorer and they say dark green. If youre eager to get on the water, then prepare to pay a bit more in the summertime. The ad says 40 pounds but Royalex Morningstars are around 55. They are focusing resources on two of their other brands, Perception and Wilderness Systems, to meet the surging demand for kayaks. Important Shipping Notice -Due to business-related impacts of COVID-19, replacement parts orders placed through this website are estimated to take between 2-3weeks to arrive in home. Ive had good experiences in OT Campers over the years when used in the conditions youve mentioned. Mad River has been building canoes for almost 50 years. Wood trim likely needs some work with previous repairs showing up. Weve included advice for buying new and used canoes, as well as links to the canoes currently on the market, as listed in our Paddling Buyers Guide. I recommend the stuff with the green and white label or the teak oil. Will look it over tonight & possibly post more if anything is notable. Agreed on the weighing difficulties but I have been to Wisconsin a time or two and have seen individuals in bars sporting Sheboygan Goiters that must've been darn close to a 16ft cantilever. The mighty Rabbit was trying to compete against Sawyer and Wenonah in the western half of the Minnesota to Maine canoe market. Its a modern hull that does a lot of things very well. Mad River Sunrunner Canoe: Asking $1250.00 / Best OfferFiberglass Hull with wood gunnels and cane seats, In good condition. While firsthand experience is the best way to fully realize a canoes performance, expert reviews are the next best way. I suspect the "KA" denotes a Kevlar/Airex Explorer model which MRC produced 1983-1995. Good luck with whatever model you select. This route seems most consistent with original. See and review all Mad River canoes here. You are using an out of date browser. It also looks like perfect paddling weather today. The shallowness also a bit of a concern as we really enjoy some of the bigger waters in Quetico. The camo seems to be too high quality and intricate for an individual to have done, and it appears to be under the gel coat inside and outside of the hull. A glass boat is unlikely to weigh 6 lbs less than specs, and a Kevlar lay up might well weigh 6 lbs more than spec, especially a Kevlar Expedition model. $50 cash Hope you can get it. No wood rot. See photo. If I could only pick from these five and based on how you intend to use it, Id lean toward the OT Camper. ~wetzool. The cboats discussion speaks of kevlar airex boats having a raised football-shape on the floor which this doessort of. That is, if I intend to do so. Could the raised floor be something other than Airex? Having the weight directly above the scale is more sensible. The Sunrunner was just a weird design that almost nobody likes, the Destiny is just blah when compared with the Northwind that Bell has, and the Sunrunner and Spirit that . We operate 7 days a week fro Mine are really beat up, so the boat is without any decks right now. Are we certain Airex was only used on kevlar or hybrid boats? Using 16-foot canoes as a baseline to compare, you can see the weight differences. reserved. Canoes hold their value exceptionally well. Really closer to 45 is ideal (and for the lucky among us Savage River makes full carbon boats in the low 30s!). Its very nice for flat/easy water. abwoolsey June 20, 2020, 10:45pm #13. Mad River Canoe Kevlar Explorer 1992. Timeless and Rugged. I tried contacting MRC but havent gotten a reply yet (2 Weeks). Also, any other info you HIN geeks can provide would be awesome. Thanks for buying that boat. There is room for it to be longer so maybe I will start with that and go from there. Does anyone know if I could use a heat gun (oh-so-carefully) to remove the remaining license sticker from the bow? We want to replace the original seats with ash/webbing seats as the cane is badly broken in both seats. Finally back to this project and rereading prior discussion but more questions as the material lay-up confuses me. 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